How easy/fast is it to remove a TS75 from the CMS module?

[dbworkshop]

Even though we don't have the CMS system on this side of the pond, (the CXS contest is open to members across the pond)I have still been intently watching to see if this would be a good fit to my work. In the course of a project, I switch between needing a TS for ripping sheet goods and a table saw for thin rip cuts and ripping angled profiles. Hence my question, how quickly can the TS be removed from table saw mode to hand held ripping?

Dan

 

[windmill man]

About 10 minutes , it is a bit of a faff.

John

 

[CO_JCD]

Removing the TS75 from the module only takes a couple of minutes with practice.

I would agree though that it takes longer to fix the TS75 into the CMS.  Again, with practice, once could probably do it in under five minutes however the 10 minutes quoted above is accurate at it will take you at least 5 minutes to mentally get into the right state to want to actually do it as it is a bit of a pain.

Once you have it fitted to the CMS, you want to leave it there as long as possible having planned your work around it, just to avoid having to change the saw out too often.

Having a TS 75 in the CMS and a separate TS55 for the rail - now you are talking.

John

 

[windmill man]

Thats the way I ended up going .

TS75 left in the modual and TS55 for the rails and MFT.    Then along came the CS50 [smile]

John

 

[Eli]

yeah, same. About five-ten minutes. I tend to put it off until I have no choice either taking it out or putting it in. I'm teeing up a 75 and module, to keep parked in the CMS 'all' the time. The 55 works great in the module, but AU wood tends to be very hard, so ripping with the 55 is a multipass operation. I often find I need more depth as well.

 

[Alan m]

sound like someone should do a video or time delay video sequence showing how long and hard it is to do. this could influence someone buying the cms. it would influence me as i only have one ts saw

 

[mattfc]

sound like someone should do a video or time delay video sequence showing how long and hard it is to do. this could influence someone buying the cms. it would influence me as i only have one ts saw

I might just about be up for that! I would say it takes me about 5 mins.. less if I leave the riving knife in. The bit that takes the time and sucks is putting the bolt through the TS baseplate to hold the height adjuster.. its so fiddly, I hate it. It looks like they (Festool) tried to punch the metal to make sure the bolt stays fixed.. but it hasn't worked so can very akward

 

[gompy58]

talking about the module on the CMS.

My Festool dealer states that it would not be wise to buy the ts75 module to put into my CMS ground unit. Of course he would rather sell a cs50 or cs70 but that is not his point... he says...

It is his opinion that the TS75 is way to big for the module and there would be markings in the would if I would use the 75 that way. Reason for the markings should be the fibrations due to its size.

Can you guys confirm this?

some times i wish i would have bought the 55 instead the 75.... size does not always mathers... [unsure]

 

[CO_JCD]

I can't comment re the CS50 or CS 70, however the TS75 and TS55 work equally well in a CMS module.  The main difference being that you run out of capacity with the TS55...

If you already have the TS75, get the module for it.  If you need a second saw, the TS55 is better for general rail work in the sense that it is easier to handle.  The weight of the TS75 disappears in the module.  The quality of cut is determined by the correct choice of blade / speed of cut for the material in question.

John

 

[AlexThePalex]

It is his opinion that the TS75 is way to big for the module and there would be markings in the would if I would use the 75 that way. Reason for the markings should be the fibrations due to its size.

I find that hard to believe, first there aren't that much vibrations as the TS75 runs pretty smooth, and second, the CMS unit isn't exactly made out of cardboard.

As for the TS55, it's mostly good when cutting sheet material op to 22 mm. As soon as you go to thicker material the TS75 is a lot better, especially if it's hardwood. If you want to put a saw in a table, I'd always recommend the stronger saw. With the CMS, I'd also suggest getting some of the table extensions as the basic unit's surface is uncomfortably small. 

 

[Bainiet]

@mattfc
"I would say it takes me about 5 mins.. less if I leave the riving knife in. The bit that takes the time and sucks is putting the bolt through the TS baseplate to hold the height adjuster.. its so fiddly, I hate it."

I totally agree with you. I never take out the TS75 riving knife. I loose the protective cover and double sided dust extraction but hey if you really need it install it and accept the extra time. The height adjuster should have been mounted on the TS baseplate in combination with rapid clamping of the TS75. My biggest problem is setting the sawblade parallel to the table/fence. I had serious kick-back one night when the back of the saw was closer to the fence than the front end...

5 mins? 1: mount the TS75 on the baseplate, 2ut the module in the CMS, align and lock, 3: connect power and dust extraction. I must give it a try but I think it won't take me more than 3 minutes...  [tongue]