How embarrassing are we British!

[Deansocial]

I dont own a 6ft level never have done in the 20 odd years ive been in this trade I always use an 800mm Stabila and a 1800 straight edge this comes from way back when I was warned that 6ft levels always get knocked about and easily go out of level so Ive never bought one. I must admit though the other week I borrowed one as my straight edge has gone walkies and I was tempted to buy one  [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

The 800 Stabila is useful as it will also do the head of a door lining as long as its more than 800 obviously.

Yeah that's what I see them use is short level with a straight edge. I need to get a straight edge really I use my 6ft level at the moment to do dab boarding properly not the best way to treat your level but its still level! Well on is I marked it with large X the other one is slightly out it was when I first bought it! I should of taken it back but I can just send it for warranty as stabila is a lifetime warranty?!?!

I sometimes use my 2' level and 6' level to do a door frames or ill use my 6' level and a folding frame square.

JMB

i use a 6ft level to put a casing in but only the hinge side then the door is hung and packed to suit. i check floor level first and cut legs to suit. i do agree about 6ft level bending or going out of level easy, im constantly checking mine. I see people whacking them against drywall whe dot n dabbing then saying 'spot on'. then i drop mine on and there is a hollow in the middle as they have bent their level

 

[joiner1970]

JMB, Cheapest place ive found for 6ft straight edges is Wickes funny enough I wouldnt buy many things out of there but they have the 6ft plasterers feather edges in there they were ?10 bargain as they are ?20 eveywhere else but now they are ?14 i think, need to get myself another one or a 6ft level  [big grin]

 

[jmbfestool]

I dont own a 6ft level never have done in the 20 odd years ive been in this trade I always use an 800mm Stabila and a 1800 straight edge this comes from way back when I was warned that 6ft levels always get knocked about and easily go out of level so Ive never bought one. I must admit though the other week I borrowed one as my straight edge has gone walkies and I was tempted to buy one  [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

The 800 Stabila is useful as it will also do the head of a door lining as long as its more than 800 obviously.

Yeah that's what I see them use is short level with a straight edge. I need to get a straight edge really I use my 6ft level at the moment to do dab boarding properly not the best way to treat your level but its still level! Well on is I marked it with large X the other one is slightly out it was when I first bought it! I should of taken it back but I can just send it for warranty as stabila is a lifetime warranty?!?!

I sometimes use my 2' level and 6' level to do a door frames or ill use my 6' level and a folding frame square.

JMB

i use a 6ft level to put a casing in but only the hinge side then the door is hung and packed to suit. i check floor level first and cut legs to suit. i do agree about 6ft level bending or going out of level easy, im constantly checking mine. I see people whacking them against drywall whe dot n dabbing then saying 'spot on'. then i drop mine on and there is a hollow in the middle as they have bent their level

Well Im no pro at Dabbing normally the plaster does it but when I do it I check the wall first and put the right amount of dab and I tend to have mine little bit more wet than normal so so it doesnt take alot of hitting for it to go back thus not bending my level and I check diagonally and make sure the its dead straight at the bottom for my self  [big grin] for when I have to fit skirting!!! Also make sure its square on external corners a lot of plasters never really get it square

I seen this really wide 6' box level its cheap might buy that for dabbing instead of using my stabila!

JMB

 

[jmbfestool]

JMB, Cheapest place ive found for 6ft straight edges is Wickes funny enough I wouldnt buy many things out of there but they have the 6ft plasterers feather edges in there they were ?10 bargain as they are ?20 eveywhere else but now they are ?14 i think, need to get myself another one or a 6ft level  [big grin]

Ill have a looks cheers! I do need one keep telling my self to get one but festool comes first lol!

JMB

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Peter,

Thanks for the posting of the Fine Homebuilding article on Larry.  When I first started out, his video tapes were invaluable.  He's definitely one of the top contributors to our profession!

 

[Deansocial]

Peter,

Thanks for the posting of the Fine Homebuilding article on Larry.  When I first started out, his video tapes were invaluable.  He's definitely one of the top contributors to our profession!

i have the fine homebuilding roofing book. Amazing how it improves the way things can be done

 

[nickao]

there are very few MUST tools. Yeah bang away with a paslode, but many inspectors wont pass a cut roof done with paslodes round here, they basically fire pins. I tack with a passy and then use real nails.

They would not pass because Paslode use to only shoot the 1/2 head nails, which are against code in many if not most places. Now they have a new version that shoots full round head nails and there is no reason for those not to pass inspection.

Still, I learned framing with 16d nails and and a hammer. Nothing holds like a spike, not even with the best compressor guns and nails.

 

[woodguy7]

Nick

I totally agree with that.

Woodguy.

 

[Deansocial]

I dont own a 6ft level never have done in the 20 odd years ive been in this trade I always use an 800mm Stabila and a 1800 straight edge this comes from way back when I was warned that 6ft levels always get knocked about and easily go out of level so Ive never bought one. I must admit though the other week I borrowed one as my straight edge has gone walkies and I was tempted to buy one  [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]

The 800 Stabila is useful as it will also do the head of a door lining as long as its more than 800 obviously.

Yeah that's what I see them use is short level with a straight edge. I need to get a straight edge really I use my 6ft level at the moment to do dab boarding properly not the best way to treat your level but its still level! Well on is I marked it with large X the other one is slightly out it was when I first bought it! I should of taken it back but I can just send it for warranty as stabila is a lifetime warranty?!?!

I sometimes use my 2' level and 6' level to do a door frames or ill use my 6' level and a folding frame square.

JMB

i use a 6ft level to put a casing in but only the hinge side then the door is hung and packed to suit. i check floor level first and cut legs to suit. i do agree about 6ft level bending or going out of level easy, im constantly checking mine. I see people whacking them against drywall whe dot n dabbing then saying 'spot on'. then i drop mine on and there is a hollow in the middle as they have bent their level

Well Im no pro at Dabbing normally the plaster does it but when I do it I check the wall first and put the right amount of dab and I tend to have mine little bit more wet than normal so so it doesnt take alot of hitting for it to go back thus not bending my level and I check diagonally and make sure the its dead straight at the bottom for my self  [big grin] for when I have to fit skirting!!! Also make sure its square on external corners a lot of plasters never really get it square

I seen this really wide 6' box level its cheap might buy that for dabbing instead of using my stabila!

JMB

yeah i would go for that box level. Any decent dryliner(note dryliner not plasterer) will square his boards up. Plasterers on the other hand should stick to what they know-plastering. I snap a line on floor and ceiling and as long as it is straight from 1 to the other it will be spot on

 

[Deansocial]

there are very few MUST tools. Yeah bang away with a paslode, but many inspectors wont pass a cut roof done with paslodes round here, they basically fire pins. I tack with a passy and then use real nails.

They would not pass because Paslode use to only shoot the 1/2 head nails, which are against code in many if not most places. Now they have a new version that shoots full round head nails and there is no reason for those not to pass inspection.

Still, I learned framing with 16d nails and and a hammer. Nothing holds like a spike, not even with the best compressor guns and nails.

what about 1 of these http://bostitch.co.uk/products/tools/stick-nailers/5381602/

just have to climb back on the roof everytime it fires you off [tongue]

 

[jmbfestool]

there are very few MUST tools. Yeah bang away with a paslode, but many inspectors wont pass a cut roof done with paslodes round here, they basically fire pins. I tack with a passy and then use real nails.

They would not pass because Paslode use to only shoot the 1/2 head nails, which are against code in many if not most places. Now they have a new version that shoots full round head nails and there is no reason for those not to pass inspection.

Still, I learned framing with 16d nails and and a hammer. Nothing holds like a spike, not even with the best compressor guns and nails.

what about 1 of these http://bostitch.co.uk/products/tools/stick-nailers/5381602/

just have to climb back on the roof everytime it fires you off [tongue]

I love how it has the side handle so you need two hands to hold it! Big nails! [eek]

 

[Deansocial]

there are very few MUST tools. Yeah bang away with a paslode, but many inspectors wont pass a cut roof done with paslodes round here, they basically fire pins. I tack with a passy and then use real nails.

They would not pass because Paslode use to only shoot the 1/2 head nails, which are against code in many if not most places. Now they have a new version that shoots full round head nails and there is no reason for those not to pass inspection.

Still, I learned framing with 16d nails and and a hammer. Nothing holds like a spike, not even with the best compressor guns and nails.

what about 1 of these http://bostitch.co.uk/products/tools/stick-nailers/5381602/

just have to climb back on the roof everytime it fires you off [tongue]

I love how it has the side handle so you need two hands to hold it! Big nails! [eek]

i love how it uses 7 liters of air for each nail!!!

 

[jmbfestool]

I would buy one just be cool to have a power nailer but I cant be bothered to carry my compressor it takes two to lift my compressor.  Iv been looking at buying the Hilti DX 450  I know its a different class gun and shoots smaller and different nails but it just reminded me of this gun cus it being a powerfull nail gun.

JMB

 

[Deansocial]

i think you would need a compressor that big to operate that

 

[Wonderwino]

i love how it uses 7 liters of air for each nail!!!
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This might be the compressor you need to get any work done: