How to tell Rubin 2 from Rubin

[laanguiano]

I got a recon tool a yr ago ish , and it had some Rubin sample paper in it.  How can I tell if it was Rubin 1 or 2?

 

[grbmds]

The bigger question to me is would it make any difference?

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

The original Rubin is no longer available from us. So, dealers should only have Rubin 2 unless some are holding old inventory.

The change took place in May of 2012.

 

[semenza]

Says "Rubin 2" on the back as opposed to just "Rubin".

Seth

 

[Lasse Pelkonen]

Rubin 2 has a darker red color. The easiest way to differentiate them, as Seth said, is to look at the back of the paper.

Rubin 2 compared to Rubin is longer lasting and doesn`t clog up so easily. There is  definately a difference between the two.

Hope this helps.

 

[laanguiano]

Interesting.  I bought my recon tool 6/03/13 but it definitely doesn't say rubin2 on the back, although it does look darker red to me.  What you think?

Was there a time when Rubin 2 was being made without putting 2 on the back of the paper?

 

[semenza]

Based on the color (though that can very in pictures) and the lack of the '2' I would say that is not Rubin 2.  Both are dark "red" but the Rubin 2  is more brown red than your picture shows.

Seth

 

[tbellemare]

That's definitely Rubin, not Rubin 2.

Tom

 

[AlexThePalex]

Just curious, what do those other numbers printed on the back mean? - K 11 55

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[Lasse Pelkonen]

Hello.

Sorry for the late reply.

Referring to laanguiano`s question. I compared the product catalogues of Festool U.S, Finland, Sweden and Germany and it seems that the improved Rubin 2 abrasives (released in 2012 as Shane said, replaced the older Rubin abrasives that were different in color) are sold as Rubin abrasives in the U.S. They are sold as Rubin 2 in at least in the referred countries. The same applies with the Brilliant, Titan, and the Platin abrasives. I can see from looking at the introduction of Rubin abrasives on the Festool U.S website that it has all attributes that Rubin 2 has. So based on this, I think maybe it is the same product but sold under a different name in the U.S. This might also explain the color of the Rubin abrasive in laanguiano`s picture.

This is my assumption and I don`t  have any exact information about this but you can easily come to this conclusion. In any case I myself think that is nothing to be worried about because I`m sure that in all countries the customers are getting the same good quality abrasives regardless under what name it is sold, Rubin or Rubin 2, Titan or... and so on so forth.

Referring to the question grbmds asked. In short, the new version of Rubin (2) abrasives is more resistant to clogging and is more long lasting compared to the old one. Similar kind of updates have been done to other abrasives in the past, for example Titan and Brilliant but this has happened many many years ago.

Referring to the question Alex asked. I don`t know for sure but I think they are some kind of batch numbers that are used possibly for quality control and tracking.

I also took a couple of more pictures for comparison as I told earlier that there is a color difference between Rubin and Rubin 2.

I hope this shed some light on this matter.