I guess this is a problem. A sincere warning to all new FOG members

Machiyalily

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Hello,

I feel compelled to offer this sincere warning to all new members of the FOG.  I’m a new member myself and my hope is that others can learn and perhaps benefit from my experience. 

I joined the group on January 10, 2016 at 08:11 AM.  I was somewhat naive when I joined and my reason for joining was primarily to ask for help in answering a few questions about an upcoming project and then moving on with my life.  It wasn’t meant to be. 

In less than a month I’ve spent 18 hours and 34 minutes on the site.  I average .348 posts per day.  I’m powerless to stop an endless number of acronyms from entering into my conversation.  “I’m thinking of the Woodpecker one off for the MFT but I don’t have a TS70 yet so I might go Domino first, either 700 or 500.  I’d also like to have that sword but its NAINA.”  My computer and cell phone now autocorrect to festems. 

The 18 hours and 34 minutes don’t include countless hours spent on the New Brit Workshop, Poplar and other sites.  My youtube browsing history is now embarrassing for a whole new set of reasons and might indicate the early stages of obsession.  Even worse, my time on FOG inspired Amazon browsing trips isn’t measured in time but in dollars.  Those 18 hours have converted at a rate of 118 dollars per hour in purchases.  This is truly a festering problem and I may need to seek help.

Reading the posts and watching the videos has also fueled my delusion.  Somehow I not only believe that I need beautiful new kitchen cabinets but that I can actually build them myself.  I’ll need a Domino of course, and an MFT3 but they’re for a project so that’s ok.  Plus they’re cheaper if you buy them in pairs and when you think about it, they come with their own sustainer, that’s like 200 bucks so really they’re almost free. 

I’ll have to build some shop cabinets first to keep things organized.  Plus the shop cabinets are good practice so that the kitchen cabinets will be even better.  Cabinets like those deserve dovetail drawers and I could do it with my Bosch router but the Incra screw fence and table would make it so much faster and easier.  I’d waste less wood and that’s good for the environment so I should probably get that too. 

It all seemed so innocent at first.  If I keep this up I’ll be living in a cardboard box under a bridge.  But I’m not worried, the sustainers stack easily and I can wheel them around on the systainer cart.  I’ll be the envy of everyone under the bridge.  So, if you’re a new user, take heed, wear your ear and eye protection and always lock your credit cards offsite before you log into the FOG. 
 
I'm still waiting for you to explain the actual problem ... I'm only hearing about the fun you're having [wink]
 
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Steveo205 said:
Blah blah blah...... (skim reading)...... and the point of this pointless thread is.......  [eek] nothing + it took you ages to type it all..  :o

[member=24074]Steveo205[/member]

Wow .. I see you're in touch with your feminine side. Nice to see a nurturing and supportive response to our new members!!!
 
Very many years ago, my new wife (now 33 years later and same wife) wanted some built-in book shelves. I agreed to build them providing I could buy a power saw. I was totally new to woodworking! I traipsed down to Sears and bought a radial arm saw. After some frustrating, some funny, and some scary events, the bookcases were painted and installed. Both cars also were inadvertently painted. My wife agree to do the painting, used a powered spray painter, and didn't realize overspray would travel a few feet and attach itself to cars.

Now, 33 years later, I have a huge shop full of wonderful tools, including almost everything Festool makes. The radial arm saw is long gone. Our house and many other houses are full of beautiful things I have made. Woodworking has survived the years as other hobbies and sports have come and gone.

I recount all this to encourage the OP to immerse himself in woodworking, learn, be safe, and enjoy the best of tools.
 
[member=59964]Machiyalily[/member]

What you said is so true!  Welcome to the slippery slope!

Mike A.
 
It is only bad when you reach the stage where the shop is so cluttered with tools that you cant' find the one you need. You then have to go out and pick up another one to finish the job and discover the original some days later.

 
[member=15289]Birdhunter[/member] this story sounds all so familiar to me. about 3 or 4 years ago my wife saw this washer and drier stand on pinterest and asked if if I could build it. Not wanting to say know, I accepted the her request. I didn't have a single power tool minus a cheap black and deck drill. I went to HD and had them cut up the plywood to side (didn't get cut to size) and put a hand saw including the miter jig. Made all the cuts on the 2x4 stand by hand and screwed the top on. In the end, it looked like crap but she loved it. Fast forward a few years, I now have a fully outfitted shop including many festool tools. Oh and that ugly stand is still in our laundry room. I told her I'd build a new one but she won't let me, said it brings back memories.  [scared]
 
"Those 18 hours have converted at a rate of 118 dollars per hour in purchases. "

Stands to reason if you increase the rate to 236 dollars per hour you'll have twice as much fun.

Good job and keep it Machiyalily!
 
Steveo205 said:
Blah blah blah...... (skim reading)...... and the point of this pointless thread is.......  [eek] nothing + it took you ages to type it all..   :o

Which probably saved $118.  [big grin]

Seth
 
Hnnguyen85 said:
[member=15289]Birdhunter[/member] this story sounds all so familiar to me. about 3 or 4 years ago my wife saw this washer and drier stand on pinterest and asked if if I could build it. Not wanting to say know, I accepted the her request. I didn't have a single power tool minus a cheap black and deck drill. I went to HD and had them cut up the plywood to side (didn't get cut to size) and put a hand saw including the miter jig. Made all the cuts on the 2x4 stand by hand and screwed the top on. In the end, it looked like crap but she loved it. Fast forward a few years, I now have a fully outfitted shop including many festool tools. Oh and that ugly stand is still in our laundry room. I told her I'd build a new one but she won't let me, said it brings back memories.  [scared]

When I was a kid living on my uncle's farm, a bunch of us got to fooling around lifting each other by the elbows.  We were in the big old kitchen, the biggest and most used room in the rambling farm house. It was not only the kitchen and dining room, but in winter, it was the living room, activity room, laundry room, warming and drying room, sometimes washing room and you name the activity, that is where it all happened.  Oh yeah, i learned about story telling sitting around the big kitchen table with my elder heroes as they laughed and joked about their exciting adventures.  Anyhow, all of us kids were trying to see how high we could lift each other by the elbows when my uncle walked in.

He was a big man weighing well over 200 pounds.  He challenged us to lift him.  Whenever I was in need of extra special attention of the more serious nature, he never spanked or yelled at me, but just wrapped his giant left hand around my head and held me with the one hand and my nose about 6 inches from his as long as the lecture should last. Needless to say, I NEVER talked back and I listened to every word very carefully. Well. none of the other kids could even move his feet from the floor.  I was the oldest and loved working in the fields and around the animals in the barn. i was not only stronger, but knew many tricks to lifting heavy objects.  I got behind my uncle and instead of trying to lift him by curling my arms from the elbows, i got my hands back against my shoulders and heaved with my legs.  I knew i had to put some effort into the lift, so I gave it my best lift. Up he went with a bang with his head to the ceiling.  Make that "into the ceiling".  As luck would have it, his head was centered between the ceiling joists as he hit.  As he came back down, there was a huge bow with cracks spreading in about four directions where his head had hit. 

I think I was about 12 or 13 at the time.  when i was 14, i moved back to Connecticut with my mom and brother.  I went thru high school and a year and a half of college, a two year vacation to the Orient with my Uncle Sam, a year or two of apprentice ship and a couple of years in my own biz in contracting.  Eventually, I got a couple of friends to give me a hand putting a new floor in the old room.  We fixed a couple of doors, BUT, my aunt refused to allow us to fix that crack in the ceiling. It brought back such memories for her.  I could not argue as it reminded me of my uncle who had passed away while i was in Korea. He had been the greatest influence of my life, so I was very happy to accommodate by not repairing that ceiling.
Tinker
 
Tinker said:
He had been the greatest influence of my life, so I was very happy to accommodate by not repairing that ceiling.
Great story!
Thanks
Tim
 
[member=58344]Hnnguyen85[/member], for goodness sakes, did you have to go and mention Pinterest? The OP maybe didn't know about the additional time he might be spending there now. The FOG and Amazon are taking 18 hours now.

Pinterest could double that! Lucky my wife likes Pinterest too. "Hey honey, I see some neat gardening tips we can use. Woodworking? Nah, I'm looking in the gardening section."
 
greg mann said:
[member=58344]Hnnguyen85[/member], for goodness sakes, did you have to go and mention Pinterest? The OP maybe didn't know about the additional time he might be spending there now. The FOG and Amazon are taking 18 hours now.

Pinterest could double that! Lucky my wife likes Pinterest too. "Hey honey, I see some neat gardening tips we can use. Woodworking? Nah, I'm looking in the gardening section."
Wait until she finds the raised garden bed... that'll put your tools to use.
 
Hnnguyen85 said:
greg mann said:
[member=58344]Hnnguyen85[/member], for goodness sakes, did you have to go and mention Pinterest? The OP maybe didn't know about the additional time he might be spending there now. The FOG and Amazon are taking 18 hours now.

Pinterest could double that! Lucky my wife likes Pinterest too. "Hey honey, I see some neat gardening tips we can use. Woodworking? Nah, I'm looking in the gardening section."
Wait until she finds the raised garden bed... that'll put your tools to use.

Done and done. We love our raised gardens.
 
[member=59964]Machiyalily[/member] Have you thought about sharing your experience by making a video?  Now there's a black hole of time.

By they way, very nice writing.  That was one of the more enjoyable posts I've read in a while.
 
Should we tell him Festool is just a gateway drug to Felder? Nah ... probably not.
 
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