I just made an impulse buy! (domino)

[Just F Me]

Morning all
Thanks everyone for the warm welcome!  [big grin]
I know exactly what you all say about a festool addiction, I don't even have the xl df700 yet and i want more festool stuff lol

I do have an extractor at the moment, It's a dewalt dwv902m (I know i know it isn't a festool) but it seems very good to be honest. And i'd say it will be up to the job no problem, Also have adapters for it.


I think i'll just buy some sipo rods and be done with it for the outdoor stuff.
Once again thanks all for the very friendly welcome i can see i'm going to like it here (even though my bank account won't)

Cheers James

Hmmm...I'm not sure if that video is suppose to show how good is the Dewalt vac in sucking up a bunch of fine dust, or how much it just sucks.  Festool vacs have a bag...keeps all the chips and dust in the bag and keeps the HEPA filters clean. 

 

[Stone Message]

Hmmm...I'm not sure if that video is suppose to show how good is the Dewalt vac in sucking up a bunch of fine dust, or how much it just sucks.  Festool vacs have a bag...keeps all the chips and dust in the bag and keeps the HEPA filters clean.

After this post I looked at the video - that is prehistoric. I have my brilliant CT26 and two Numatics which all do different jobs in the workshop and each is superb at the job assigned. They all have dust bags and fine filters. The dust bags keep the filters 99.99% clean. The last thing you want to do is to run any vac system with a clogged filter. Even if I were using a cyclone interceptor (as I do) I would want the attached vac to have a bag or pre-filter of some sort.

Peter

 

[jmac80]

Hi guys the dewalt vac actually comes with bags and each filter is automatically cleaned every 15 seconds, reducing filter clogging and delivering constant air flow.
It does seem good to be honest. it will do me for now anyway!

 

[Wuffles]

Hi guys the dewalt vac actually comes with bags and each filter is automatically cleaned every 15 seconds, reducing filter clogging and delivering constant air flow.
It does seem good to be honest. it will do me for now anyway!

Yes, I think the video was trying to demonstrate the cleaning/pulsing cycle (like the Starmix vacs), I'd have said it was more than adequate. Actually quite jealous of that vac.

Anything that can still "suck" with that nonsense going up the pipe will be more than adequate for a domino I reckon.

 

[#Tee]

ahha this thread is great and funny! i know exactly how you feel. i dont regret any festool purchase ive made, my only regret was not buying it sooner. [blink]

 

[stahlee]

No worries, you purchased the perfect tool for jumping into Festool.

 

[Pixel]

Hmmm...I'm not sure if that video is suppose to show how good is the Dewalt vac in sucking up a bunch of fine dust, or how much it just sucks.  Festool vacs have a bag...keeps all the chips and dust in the bag and keeps the HEPA filters clean.

After this post I looked at the video - that is prehistoric. I have my brilliant CT26 and two Numatics which all do different jobs in the workshop and each is superb at the job assigned. They all have dust bags and fine filters. The dust bags keep the filters 99.99% clean. The last thing you want to do is to run any vac system with a clogged filter. Even if I were using a cyclone interceptor (as I do) I would want the attached vac to have a bag or pre-filter of some sort.

Peter

Peter, totally agree with you about the issues of not using a bag BUT, I recently bought the Planex system with a CTM auto clean and as with all tools bought in France was given a 1 hour demonstration/tutorial on how to use it. Sanding drywall or pre painted surfaces require you to use the plastic disposable liner which is a piece of plastic that lays in the bottom of the vac, leaving the filters exposed to all the dust it draws in, I questioned this and was told that all auto clean versions are better for dust control with the open disposable sac, that reminded me of my Hilti vacuums for the Grinders, sanders and cutting machines, non of my hilti vacs use bags with the exception of an M class which was used for the saws cutting MDF.
Peter

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Peter

Many thanks for the detail, it is very helpful. I must confess that when I saw the video I was not aware of it being a self cleaning model - I do prefer videos that give a full explanation rather than the viewer having to have prior knowledge of a product or rely on advice and help from friends (like Pixel).

Despite all of that I think that still prefer the use of a bag even it is just to make the disposal of dust a little easier.

Peter

 

[Pixel]

Hi Peter

Many thanks for the detail, it is very helpful. I must confess that when I saw the video I was not aware of it being a self cleaning model - I do prefer videos that give a full explanation rather than the viewer having to have prior knowledge of a product or rely on advice and help from friends (like Pixel).

Despite all of that I think that still prefer the use of a bag even it is just to make the disposal of dust a little easier.

Peter

Same here Peter, my CT vacs cost more to run that my car

Peter

 

[jmac80]

Well Peter and Pixel
I eat my words, The dust extractor cut out a couple of times today and now it won't come on at all!
The company are picking it and refunding me so i will have about £500 or so for a new hoover / extractor, Which festool one is the one to get?

 

[Wuffles]

This should be interesting.

 

[Stone Message]

Well Peter and Pixel
I eat my words, The dust extractor cut out a couple of times today and now it won't come on at all!
The company are picking it and refunding me so i will have about £500 or so for a new hoover / extractor, Which festool one is the one to get?

There are better experts than me here on the FOG but...

I have the CTL26 and have been delighted with it. As far as I understand the 36 and 48 have the same pulling power but bigger bag capacity. There are others that clean their filters (Cleantex) and the CTM for safer working. I will leave it to the experts to give you the full breakdown.

Bottom line is my CT is the unsung hero of my workshop.

Peter

 

[joiner1970]

Well Peter and Pixel
I eat my words, The dust extractor cut out a couple of times today and now it won't come on at all!
The company are picking it and refunding me so i will have about £500 or so for a new hoover / extractor, Which festool one is the one to get?

I have the midi and have used midis since 2007 when I first got into festool. The midi has always suited me as I'm mobile and they are much easier to transport compared to the bigger models. If your just in the workshop then you might consider the bigger ones .

 

[butzla]

Congratulations on your first Festool purchase.  I don't need to tell you the Domino is a great tool.  I agree with others, you will need a CT dust extractor, it should be your next purchase.
I made a porch swing 4-5 years ago out of white oak and I used Sipo dominos.  Still standing strong and the joints are just as tight as the day I finished them.

 

[Pixel]

Well Peter and Pixel
I eat my words, The dust extractor cut out a couple of times today and now it won't come on at all!
The company are picking it and refunding me so i will have about £500 or so for a new hoover / extractor, Which festool one is the one to get?

Buying a vacuum is probably the only tool which needs thinking about, As Joiner1970 says the midi is very easy to transport but I think the 90degree bend at the inlet is a bad design as it blocks if your chewing off timber with a router or planer.
I always buy where available the auto clean versions (you need to choose Low or Medium class depending on your work environment)
because having a clean filter is the key to keeping the extraction in prime condition, if you work heavily with sanders then this really has to be your choice as Festool has mastered the art of airflow with their sander/vacuum designs.

 

[jmac80]

Thanks
Why am i excited about getting a hoover?  [unsure] What has become of me?  [scared]

Festool Mobile dust extractor CTM 26 E GB 240V CLEANTEX £578 delivered. that do the job? Only concern is 26l is quite small and must need emptied alot!
But the jump in price to the 36l is a bit much for my xmas wallet to handle

 

[Wuffles]

Thanks
Why am i excited about getting a hoover?  [unsure] What has become of me?  [scared]

Festool Mobile dust extractor CTM 26 E GB 240V CLEANTEX £578 delivered. that do the job? Only concern is 26l is quite small and must need emptied alot!
But the jump in price to the 36l is a bit much for my xmas wallet to handle

Can be had for slightly less at my local dealer. Might be worth the extra for the AC model too.

Are you moving it about much? Have you considered a cyclone/separator between the tool and the dust bag, makes the size of the vac important - ie., it can be smaller with a cyclone in the way as it grabs most of the dust/shavings before it even hits the vac?

 

[jmac80]

Hmm yeah
The auto clean one is only £10 more.
Never considered a cyclone, could get one in the future.
What sort of price are the bags and are there cheaper alternatives or can they be reused?

So this one maybe Festool CTM 26 E AC 240V 26L CLEANTEC Mobile Dust Extractor £586

the Festool 584098 Mobile dust extractor - CTL48 E AC GB 240V new code 584085 is only £635 if only it was a M model  [crying]

cheers james

 

[Wuffles]

I just changed the bag after about 18 months ownership on a CT26, not because it was full, just thought it was about time and was feeling rich, I'm not a big user but I've emptied the container for the separator I built about 20 times in that period, so if you get it right they can certainly save you a bucketload in terms of money for bags. They're not that much anyway I don't think. You can get a heavy duty zipped one but they're hideous money, and I did once read somewhere (as you do) that they're not all that.

I made one of these http://www.jpthien.com/cy.htm for about £20 and sit it on top of my CT26, works a charm. I'd confidently say that only about 1% or less makes it to the vac bag?

It's only the start though, before you know it you'll want a boom arm and then the whole thing becomes an unmoveable object (I've been putting off moving mine back to the workshop from the house for the past week, it's too much hassle). I think I preferred it when it was just a vac and a hose  [smile]

My time again I'd go for something bagless like you had (but a working version, like a Starmix iPulse) and a cyclone, and some bungee cords to hold the damn hose out of the way instead of a boom arm. I may even sell the boom arm. Only because I use vacs for all sorts and really don't want to be filling up bags all the time. I am tight.

Hope some of that makes sense to you.

 

[jmac80]

Thanks very much wuffles, good food for thought.
Who sells the starmix ipulse in the uk?