'I Thought I Would Never Buy A Festool Drill' the Video

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[size=14pt]In the distant past Festool drills were not on my shopping list. Could not see how they, compared to some other Festools, were worth the price premium.

Then I purchased a CXS, then more recently a C15 and Next?

With the release of the C18 in Europe and soon NA, I decided to publish the video now. Many of the features and accessories of the C15 and 18 are the same and indeed,  apart from the 2.6 amp batt and slightly more wattage, they are essentially the same drill.

Originally I started this video with a view to entering it in this years Festool Video competition, only to realise that this year the competition would be NA only. So I delayed finishing it, only recording the last shots during the past few weeks.

 
There appears to be an error with the upload of this video on Utube as it freezes around 30 seconds in. Apologies, I will re upload it in around two hours.  [embarassed]
 
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[size=11pt]Sorry for the technical issues. Still do not know why, but it took three upload attempts before the video would playback satisfactorily on UTube.

[size=14pt]Please go to Reply 1 of this thread if you wish to view it.

[size=10pt][member=47193]WelshWood[/member]
 
Great video well done.

By the way that's what I always said, thought I'd never buy one now I've got two.

I was always happy with my old lxt Makita's but the fessy ones are a different class
 
After 2 'yellow branded' drills died on me in quck succession I now have 5 festool drills!
 
when I were a lad and festo only did the CDD they did it in 7.2, 9.6 and 12v flavours. i got the 12 as it was the best in its class  and if I was keen i could use the lower volt batteries in it, though a 9.6 couldn't use the higher capacity.

never regretted it and it's still going. and the charger did other brands so my makitas worked and the lack of a battery hammer  was solved with a 12v hitachi.

one thing I was told at the time and it seems to have been true is the extra I spent on the 15 minute charger was worth it for the improvement in battery lifespan. at the time it was either 2 batts and a 60min or 1 batt and the mcu15 so I paid quite a lot to have a spare battery.

stuck with 12v but the only issue i have is big holesaws draining batteries faster than I can charge em [mad]

 
I'm not sure what to gather from your video (other than you're consistently not applying enough pressure and camming out a lot  [blink]).
 
Renovatedspaces said:
Well done video. I was expecting something about why they are worth the price premium though.
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Thanks for your comment.  [smile]. [member=43784]Renovatedspaces[/member]

Yes, I would agree, but it is very hard to record 'feel-a-vision'. So I attempted to convey their quality through the number of close ups showing relative precision in bitt and chuck rotation, as well as a number of different tasks and situations.

Thank you all who have replied so far.
 
I am not sure what I would have thought of the previous generation non-brushless motor Makitas as I never owned one. The brushless motor makita impact drill with the auto clutch is a heck of a tool. It is not inexpensive either...just does not have the additional chucks and versatility of the Festy and I am note even sure you can get the specific 3 variable speed Makita, brushless with auto clutch in a two separate drill kit. So if you fancy a hammer drill to go with your impact drill you would have to buy that separately. As for combination tools (not combination kits but combination tools) I can't say that I have ever been much for combination tools as they have always seemed something of a compromise to me.

But I do think the real value in the way Festy does their drill is you get three drills in one handset for example with one charger and two batteries and if that is how you want to have your drills, what better brand than Festy. But since the impact drill is the only one I wanted to be cordless anyway, I would have paid a heck of a lot of money to go down the Festy road for drills and not really had what I wanted. My 1/2" drill is corded as is my standard 3/8" with a level bubble on the tail end. I waited to get an impact until Makita came out with this brushless, auto clutch, 3 variable speed, as I thought it would be as close to the Festy Impact features as I could get while only paying for 1 tool.

Impacts are amazing tools. Not sure how we would do some things or at least do them well without the Impact Driver.
 
Impacts are a funny thing and I remember them practically giving them away in desperation, I never needed one nor wanted one having seen the damage they can do. they said one came in very handy driving tec screws into steel and also fixing some decking.

I did finally pick one up last year a cheap second hand 12v hitachi and it is handy as a spare drill and working on the bike or timberwork but I still wont let it near a kitchen or bedroom except for driving in a tight wall fixing. too easy to mess up without torque.

One job I was doing I had a lithuanian lad with a shiney new panasonic try to convince me that I was doing it all wrong with my tried and trusted pilot first then screws as he tried to hang mirrors with one. rattle rattle shatter. :)
 
You have to use impacts for the right application. They are not a substitute for a cordless power screwdriver. You can use them for construction projects if they have variable speed and an auto-clutch. If your impact does not have an auto clutch you are asking for trouble as the thing is just going to keep banging away regardless of how close to completely screwed in the fixture might be.

I think the auto clutch is a fairly new feature and only included at this point on the better Impacts. But at least for me it would be a useless tool without it as I am not using an Impact every day. I need the tool to help me to not screw up.I don't need to damage or break stuff reacquainting myself with the tool every time. I think even now you could get an Impact that does not have the latest features pretty cheaply as the newer models have completely obsoleted the other stuff. As I also mentioned I had waited to buy an Impact until this generation of the tool.

So as I mentioned earlier, the specific Makita I have has the auto clutch, 3 speeds and a brushless motor
 
Just figured out Festool drills were all that and a bag of more thats as recent as October of last year.    I really don't use much of any power tools, and happen to not need most of what Festool makes.  Thus, I suppose I overlooked?  Nonetheless, I'm glad I finally stumbled upon my wakeup call. 

 
[size=14pt]Thank you to the 405 FOG members who took the time to watch this video in the past week. You could only watch it if you had the link and the link was only published here on the FOG.

If you missed it, scroll up or down to the first post to find the link.
 
I've got a couple of Festool drills that thankfully I didn't pay full price for.  While I like the drills, I don't see anything that justifies the insane cost of a new one.  I've beat on Dewalt drills for years and they've been great.  I do buy a new one every 3 years or so but it's for the batteries, not because the drill needed replacing.  Festool makes some nice drills with some nice features.  I would rather spend that kind of money on other Festool tools and leave the drilling to Dewalt. 
 
Nice video Untidy, if the video had the Festool music to accompany it, It could quite easily pass for one of their promo vids.
 
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