"Imperial" DOMINO - Inches Please!

charlie b

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I WISH there was an "Imperial" (inches) version of the DOMINO.

The "stepped Fence to Center of Thickness" gauge could esily replaced.

The "Fence to Mortise Centerline Scale" could easily be replaced.

The "bits" could be made in 1/4", 3/8" and maybe 1/2".

The "Viewing Window Scale" could be replaced with 1/32" increments

The "Depth of Cut Notches" could be cut for 1/2", 3/4", 1", 1 1/4"

The retractable "stop pins" could be made 1/4" diameter

The distance between the retractable stop pins (inside to inside) could be at 1/2" (12.7mm)

I'll even make my own 1/4", 3/8",1/2" loose tenons

charlie b
 
  These same words have have been said for all of the Festool line up, they just seem to fall on deaf ears. Do what I did, learn Metric. ;D
 
This is perfect opportunity switch to metric. Festool USA can send free metric tape with purchases $1000+. It will eliminate requests for imperial scales and make transition process less painful.  ;D
 
Charlie,

Those 'simple' changes would bring monumental problems to the manufacturing process and even more cost. Here in the States we are on an excruciatingly slow path to metrication but it is not so hard once you make a philosophical adjustment. I work in both systems day in and day out, probably more imperial than metric, but I have decided to go metric in my woodworking to the greatest extent possible. My standard style is going to be 20 x 50.  ;D
 
There are quite a few websites that have conversion charts as well as conversion calculators. A google search for them will give you some very interesting sites.
 
Would probably add 50% to the price, easily. And then it wouldn't play well with the Other Children, so do they convert them too? Metric isn't bad.  ;D
 
Hi Charlie,

I,m not sure the Domino could happily drive a 1/2" cutter, but others will know more than me.
Also, with regard to making tenons, you may have noticed that all Festool products really need Festool blades, pads, dominoes etc. (with some exceptions.)
The adage, "You sell one dog but lots of dog food" applies well here. Not that I object, but I don't know if they particularly want you to make your own dominoes.

Actually, the idea of a 12 or 12.7mm cutter is intriguing. Anyone know why they aren't available?

Regards,

Albert
 
Charlie,

Have you considered the fact that it is actually much easier to work in metric? It really is not that hard to convert inches to millimeters (use a calculator to multiply them by 25.4). The only problem is that metric router bits are a bit hard to find. But they are obtainable from CMT, which manufactures them in Italy.

David Dundas
 
Regarding the price tag for the "imperial" parts

The "stepped Fence to Center of Thickness" gauge could esily replaced.
(This is an injection mold part.  While the cost of having the mold made
is in the $10-20K range for a set of production molds, the price may
be less thanks to CNC machines.  So maybe this "option" might add
a few dollars - maybe even $10.  But remember - you've got a very
large market in the USA with lots of Boomers with a fair amount of
disposable income.  I probably will make my own out of lexan.  I've
even got a letters and number set of steel stamps )

The "Fence to Mortise Centerline Scale" could easily be replaced.
(this one wouldn't add but maybe $5 to the retail price)

The "bits" could be made in 1/4", 3/8" and maybe 1/2".
(this one could be a problem - until someone comes up with an
aftermarket product - which I suspect WILL happen.  $30
is right up the router bit makers alley and market)

The "Viewing Window Scale" could be replaced with 1/32" increments
(OK - add another $5)

The "Depth of Cut Notches" could be cut for 1/2", 3/4", 1", 1 1/4"
(I suspect that Festool has to do some machining on the die cast
part anyway - so machine a little differently - CNC machines
are VERY adaptable)

The retractable "stop pins" could be made 1/4" diameter
(since the die casting has to be machined anyway for the 5mm pins
and brass insert would it kill them to program the CNC to do a1/4"
hole - mortise side say 1 3/8" to centerline?  OK add another $20)

The distance between the retractable stop pins (inside to inside) could be at 1/2" (12.7mm)
(see above - 1 2/8")

I'd have paid another $100 to have Imperial.

I've got a metric and inches pocket tape - Stanley
5m/16' (33-158) AND a digital metric/decimal inch
caliper.  And the primitive "drawing program" I use
for my scaled illustrations will display dimensions
in millimeters or decimal inches.  Hell, I've
got a Robland X31 combi - made in Brugge, Belgium.
It's got both metric and imperial parts - I even think
some of the nuts and bolts are SAE so I'm not
new to The Tower of Babel.

BUT - most USA woodworkers think and work in
inches and fractions of inches, not decimal inches.
YES - metric is really handy - no fun and games
adding, subtracting or dividing fractions.  BUT
most of my tools have Imperial Scales and machine
heights for table saws, joiners, shapers etc.  are
all around 34" off the shop floor.  I KNOW where
34" is - without a tape, metric or imperial.  But
if you asked me to show you with the palm of
my hand where 863.5 mm was - or how
wide a 610mm cabinet is - you'd get a blank
stare (it's damn close to 2 feet - or 24")

It's not hard to convert between mm and inches.
But converting the resulting decimal inches to
something on an imperial pocket tape - well that's
a bit more time consuming.  And the more side
tracks I have to take before I get to where I
want to go may mean that I either give up
somewhere along the way or don't even start
down that path. It's just one more "challenge"
to play with - and some folks are pretty sure
I'm already "developmentally challenged" -
pun very much intended.

Let's go back to Furlongs and Cubits (my
father was an accountant so Roman
Numerals are out)!

charlie b
 
CHARLIE,why go to all that trouble?just deal with it! i think it would cost a lot more than you think to redesign a tool so that it is calibrated in imperial.and where are you going to get your dominos?that 's another cost for festool to manufacture dominos in imperial.lot's of money!!
 
Charlie,

What Mastercabman said; I was brought up with imperial and made the transition to metric - it is not that hard.

The 8 mm domino, the most commonly used size, is in imperial anyway :) It is within 1/500" of being the same as 5/16". So non-owners of the Domino can rout mortises with a 5/16" spiral bit and use domino tenons.

Rocker
 
Well Festool will most likely not make imperial tools but, Lee Valley has come to the rescue! I ordered one of these:
Blindman's Fractional Electronic Caliper
This electronic caliper has the additional feature of converting back and forth among decimal inches, fractional inches and millimetres at the touch of a button.

see: ;Dhttp://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&cat=1,43513,49782&p=56741

Hope this helps
Ric
 
Hi Charlie b

You boys across the pond always want everything your way. When we want American tools in the UK we have to put up with imperial scales on everything which is much harder to work with and you don't hear us moaning.

I spoke to an importer of Incra and he had got nowhere in trying to get them to make runners to fit metric European mitre slots in table saws. Such a simple thing to do I would think but they were not in the slightest bit interested.
 
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