Interested in a precision Domino indexing jig for cabinet/box construction?

[rmwarren]

Not to complicate (or should I complicate, that is the question) matters [big grin], but what about us pin Domino guys?

Tom

Tom,

This gadget avoids using the pins altogether, so it works with pins or paddles.

I happen to be a pin guy myself, purposely bought a used Domino to get them after the paddles came out.  [thumbs up]

RMW

 

[Kev]

That's it - same page then ... Looking good.

 

[rmwarren]

That's it - same page then ... Looking good.

Good.

Back to my original question - i.e. does anyone else want one of these and would it be worth $200 - $250 for it?

I want one for my own use so I basically have 2 options:

1.  Make it myself, which will probably take me a full weekend and not be as nice as having it made by a professional CNC shop, or;

2.  Get enough other folks interested to justify having the CNC shop make them. My preliminary #'s indicate I can bring them in at this cost if I get as few as 10 sets made.

Thanks,

RMW

 

[Alan m]

how about a t rack machined in so that the clamps are captured.

 

[rmwarren]

how about a t rack machined in so that the clamps are captured.

Probably very expensive to machine, however this gives me another idea. Instead of making a solid bar, how about a thin strip with the index holes (actually 2 of them) that attaches to an extruded T-Track like this one:

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Cuts down on the custom made parts and adds several t-slots. I am not sure it saves any money but it would make it more flexible.

RMW

 

[JeromeM]

Kev - I am not sure I totally understand all your first 2 points but that may be because I explained it poorly in the beginning, I think we may be talking about some of the same things. I mocked up a Domino (badly...) with the plate, see if this makes any sense:
RMW

I can see a small problem with your plate design. That is at the moment there is no way to avoid a latteral movement. Rick adjust for this on his plates with side pieces that can be adjusted then locked down

 

[Alan m]

Kev - I am not sure I totally understand all your first 2 points but that may be because I explained it poorly in the beginning, I think we may be talking about some of the same things. I mocked up a Domino (badly...) with the plate, see if this makes any sense:
RMW

I can see a small problem with your plate design. That is at the moment there is no way to avoid a latteral movement. Rick adjust for this on his plates with side pieces that can be adjusted then locked down

i dont think the exact position is critiacal but repeatability is. i would drill a serious of holes at a slight angle agross the piece so that you can adjust the position by moving a pin to a different hole.

how about a t rack machined in so that the clamps are captured.

Probably very expensive to machine, however this gives me another idea. Instead of making a solid bar, how about a thin strip with the index holes (actually 2 of them) that attaches to an extruded T-Track like this one:

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Cuts down on the custom made parts and adds several t-slots. I am not sure it saves any money but it would make it more flexible.

RMW

how about making it fit the mfs system so that those with it can use it and those that need to buy a length can use it later with more of the system

 

[rmwarren]

Alan I do not own the MFS and don't plan to buy one, hence this is why I like to use the Woodpecker tracks. They are relatively inexpensive and I can use them for multiple jigs.

I guess I will go the homemade route when I have time.

Thanks.

RMW

 

[Zacharytanner]

I would be interested

Frank

 

[Alan m]

Alan I do not own the MFS and don't plan to buy one, hence this is why I like to use the Woodpecker tracks. They are relatively inexpensive and I can use them for multiple jigs.

I guess I will go the homemade route when I have time.

Thanks.

RMW

im definetly interested in this concept.
just trying to find the best concept and get the most out of it.
i always loved the similar idea from mafel fro the due doweler.
are the woodpeckers  extrusions the same size as the mfs ones..
are you planing on makeing a square piece that attachs to the extrusion or making a solid jig.

 

[Alan m]

how about starting an actual  poll

 

[GPowers]

[popcorn]

 

[GPowers]

You could also use the Domino mounted in  a sled  on the Festool 32mm (drilled) Guide Rail.  Kind of like the sled & router for shelf pins.

I thought someone was going to make such a device?

 

[fshanno]

I routinely deal with plywood that is flatness challenged shall we say.

I'm wondering how a rigid jig that clamps at the ends and has no means for clamping at in the middle would work for me?

Here's a jig from Virutex that would probably work on nonconformist plywood.

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Here's a link to the web page.

See what I mean?  It doesn't have to span anything.  Each dowel registers itself and the rod will have enough flexibility to conform to the kind of bowing I contend with all the time.

I need something that gives me lateral stops but still uses the fence, or Domiplate for registration.

 

[zapdafish]

The cost would put me out of the running for something like this. I am fine with one side being tight fitting holes and the other side being slighly wider holes. I think the benefits of your system would be that both sides of the joint could be tight fitting holes. Also, as a hobbiest, speed isn't necessarily a good thing. There have been a few times now when being slow saved my bacon because  something felt off so I re measured and found something wrong.

I really like the concept tho.

 

[davee]

You could also use the Domino mounted in  a sled  on the Festool 32mm (drilled) Guide Rail.  Kind of like the sled & router for shelf pins.

I thought someone was going to make such a device?

I agree that something connected to the Festool drilled guide rail would be of great value. 

 

[GadgetGuy]

Resurrecting this thread... 

RMW - did you ever make headway with this jig concept?  This (or something like this) would dramatically reduce time to cut the dominos on large cabinet jobs!

Regards, Mark

 

[rmwarren]

Resurrecting this thread... 

RMW - did you ever make headway with this jig concept?  This (or something like this) would dramatically reduce time to cut the dominos on large cabinet jobs!

Regards, Mark

Mark,

First: [welcome] to the FOG.

Second: Sadly, no. I got sidetracked and never spend any more time on it. It is in my "someday" pile but somewhere towards the bottom.

Thanks,

RMW

 

[ajones]

Resurrecting this thread... 

RMW - did you ever make headway with this jig concept?  This (or something like this) would dramatically reduce time to cut the dominos on large cabinet jobs!

Regards, Mark

Mark,

First: [welcome] to the FOG.

Second: Sadly, no. I got sidetracked and never spend any more time on it. It is in my "someday" pile but somewhere towards the bottom.

Thanks,

RMW

Above or below the damp course? [wink]