Is A Biscuit Just A Biscuit?

[live4ever]

Yep, (I can't hear the audio as I'm viewing remotely,) but you need to use the 15mm setting.

For a P14 clamex? As the audio explains, that’s the genuine Clamex connector that came in the sample pack.

I’m not even touching the overseas P15s at this point because I thought they were the problem so I started testing with my one and only genuine P14.

When I say “flush” I just mean it’s the accurate sizing compared to putting a P10 or P15 in a P14 slot - you’re correct that it’s probably an hair under flush. But it’s worth triple checking that I didn’t swap one of the halves with a P15 half.

 

[luvmytoolz]

For a P14 clamex? As the audio explains, that’s the genuine Clamex connector that came in the sample pack.

I’m not even touching the overseas P15s at this point because I thought they were the problem so I started testing with my one and only genuine P14.

When I say “flush” I just mean it’s the accurate sizing compared to putting a P10 or P15 in a P14 slot - you’re correct that it’s probably an hair under flush. But it’s worth triple checking that I didn’t swap one of the halves with a P15 half.

That's why I mentioned I hadn't heard audio, as I thought it looks like you used non-Lamello ones, I've never had that sort of play with the genuine ones on P14 setting.

As Mike mentioned earlier though it should be exactly 0.5mm below the surface on P14, so maybe you need to calibrate the depth setting?

On this post I share some measurement pics that might help: https://festoolownersgroup.com/threads/lamello-zeta-project.73562/post-712048

In fact, even though you're using the genuine Lamello's, just try setting it to P15 for a test!

Just be aware that the cam on the Clamex actually digs a little into the mating connector, so it will end up with just a tiny bit of play after several dry fits.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

You are definitely not deep enough. There should be tension against your hex key, and you should feel/see the pieces pull together. They won't just be touching, there will be pressure between the parts.

Take that pair, from the video, and place a couple of business cards between the parts, before you tighten the cam. See the difference? As loose as that looks, I bet two cards will fit in each side, maybe more. Then that side to side movement will go away too

 

[live4ever]

Hi guys - thanks for all the comments. I just had to adjust the depth deeper to get the 0.5mm setback of the connectors. I wasn’t realizing that there is a huuuuge difference between flush and the 0.5mm setback required. It was about half a turn of the adjustment screw (which equates to a 0.35mm depth change). I guess it doesn’t come dialed in from the factory, but the Clamex connectors really require the depth to be dialed in perfectly. All is well now - the connectors are strong and work as I’d expect! Thanks for the help.

 

[Cheese]

Hi guys - thanks for all the comments. I just had to adjust the depth deeper to get the 0.5mm setback of the connectors. I wasn’t realizing that there is a huuuuge difference between flush and the 0.5mm setback required. It was about half a turn of the adjustment screw (which equates to a 0.35mm depth change). I guess it doesn’t come dialed in from the factory, but the Clamex connectors really require the depth to be dialed in perfectly. All is well now - the connectors are strong and work as I’d expect! Thanks for the help.

Love that added bit of knowledge...I don't yet own the Zeta but have been thinking about the purchase of one. I would not be a happy camper if things suddenly turned south as in your description.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Love that added bit of knowledge...I don't yet own the Zeta but have been thinking about the purchase of one. I would not be a happy camper if things suddenly turned south as in your description.

Mine came almost perfectly calibrated and took a tiny bit of adjustment, really simple and trivial to do though.

You'll love it if you do get one, fantastic tool. I'm using mine to build some overhead kitchen cupboards atm.

 

[live4ever]

Love that added bit of knowledge...I don't yet own the Zeta but have been thinking about the purchase of one. I would not be a happy camper if things suddenly turned south as in your description.

Ya, pretty wild how 0.35mm is the difference between epic fail and game-changing connector. And I would assume the Tensos I used in previous projects were also installed less than ideally relative to their potential, but they still provided enough clamping power for glue. Either that or the depth somehow drifted over time - pretty unlikely given the robust mechanism (and it was a pretty stiff screw to turn). From my reading, it had sounded like the depth adjustment is something you really only use after say, resharpening changes the blade geometry.