Is it sacrilegious to use Festool for construction work?

[danrush]

Dan,

Well put.  I am that guy working in occupied houses.  Do you know who likes my tools even more than me?  Yup, my customers!!  I've gotten more than one referral due to a "clean jobsite".  (it helps that I follow drywallers, floor guys etc. ;D )

Dan

 

[Dan Clark]

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P.S. Picture Cop - Yes, barn pics will be forthcoming.

John,

Good...  I thought I might have to smack 'yas around! ;D

Dan.

 

[dirtydeeds]

no its not sacraligous

i discovered festool 4-5 years ago, i dont really use anything else now

all the rest of my power tools are european, japanese and american, i buy only the very best, with one exception

im still cant see paying 400 dollars for a titanium hammer, id want two, so im sticking with 21 and 32oz estwings

on the other hand i have 5 paslode gas nailers (thats 3000 dollars this side of the atlantic) so dont do much hammering of nails

the english stuff i have is a clifton plane, a 5m all metric tape and three bits of record gear bought before they started manufacturing in china

 

[festeringtool]

LOL

I'll list all my tools in the morning!

 

[Fred West]

DD, I have two paslode nailers and I absolutely love them. I just wish they had a 23 gauge as we do a tremendous amount of trim work and that would really cut down on the spackling.  ;D Fred

 

[Jesse Cloud]

I couldn't help to chime in here. Very interesting question!

It looks like Festool has a different image here in the US than it has in Europe.

........

Christian

It is amazing how these things differ Christian!  Like many other Americans, the first time I went to Europe and saw Mercedes and Volvo garbage trucks my jaw fell open.

 

[dirtydeeds]

fred for the unblelivers (uk extraction) and eupropean (possibly agnostics)

what is spackling

is sounds like some form of plastering or artex finish on plasterboard (dry wall)

 

[Ned]

Spackling paste
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Spackling paste is typically used to fill holes, small cracks and other minor surface defacements in wood, drywall and plaster. Three versions of spackling paste are currently on today's market: 1. Regular paste (heavy); 2. Lightweight; 3. Lightbodied (somewhat a combination between heavy and light).

A similar (but not identical) product is sold in Britain, Canada and Australia under the brand name Polyfilla, a term that has become a genericized trademark in colloquial speech.

 

[dirtydeeds]

thank you ned

i will promptly forget pollyflila  (not out of malice) and ask the same question in two months time

forgive me in advance 

you cant trust englishmen  ;D

 

[Fred West]

DD, I had an English girlfriend for about a year before she moved back and she was great. So I am assuming you can't trust the men but you may the fairer sex? ;D Fred

 

[peter halle]

As I renovation contractor I am not afraid to use my Festools out on the job.  I am lucky and have many tools, both Festool and other brands.  If the Festool product will do the job better than another brand, then I will use it.  I will admit that my thought process does include if the tool might be damaged in the process.  I could never be all Festool based on risk vs reward and also their limited offerings here in North America.

As Christian O. said, using a plunge cut saw for cutting 2 x 4's is not practical.  I use another brand which allows be to use cheaper blades.  You can't see the cut line well enough.  Since my purchase of a 55, the accessory kit, and a longer rail I usually don't even take my Dewalt contractors table saw with me.  I use my Hitachi mitersaws (2) a great deal but plan on investing money on the Kapex later this year.  Why?  Because it appears to have features that would improve my job performance and ultimately provide a return on my investment.  But would I use that Kapex to cut Hardiplank siding?  No.  The Hitachi would be that sacrificial lamb.

My wife has always watched my tool purchases carefully.  It is all to easy to get into the wants versus needs versus profit versus food on the table issue.  She will be the first one to admit that the tools purchased have contributed to the bottom line and that the Festool purchases have allowed me to perform work better and more profitably.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Michael Kellough]

.....(I wouldn't use the TS55 to rough cut 2x4s)

I would and have, just running the saw against a Speed Square instead off using a guide rail. It feels different because of the plunge action but it is still safer and more civilized (with dust collection) than using a common circular saw. Why carry two saws?

Hmm, technically I suppose a case could be made that it isn't safer since once fully plunged the blade is exposed compared to a revolving guard saw.

 

[semenza]

Hi,

  I tried the TS55 for  basic speed square 2x4 cross cut ... once    nope didn't like that at all.

Seth

 

[Ned]

If "sacrilegious" can be used in any way when talking about Festools, does that make Christian O. the Festool Archbishop of the USA?

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Today I needed to process a lot of plywood for a roof renovation. I needed to produce around 200 plywood plates for use as wind wash blocking. I stacked sheets of 1/2" CDX plywood three thick, and used my TS55 with a Standard saw blade to gang-rip them into 12" rips, then set the flip-stop on my Sawhelper to 14.5", and gang-cut the plywood rips to length six at a time. WAAAAAY faster than trying to either rip the plywood on a tablesaw or chalking lines and ripping freehand, and cutting the rips to length went even faster on the Sawhelper because I didn't need to mark a single piece, and I was cutting six rips at a time. Even with the time spent getting my TS55 and Sawhelper out and set up I still saved a ton of time in the end. The job coordinator initially looked at me kinda fun for getting all of the equipment out, but he was smiling by the end when he saw how much time I saved.

In the past I've used my RO150 with a 24 grit Saphir pad to blend subfloors that aren't quite planing out properly. I've also used my TS55 to gang-cut 1/2" OSB in stacks of three for soffits in basements.

 

[Dan Clark]

Today I needed to process a lot of plywood for a roof renovation. I needed to produce around 200 plywood plates for use as wind wash blocking. I stacked sheets of 1/2" CDX plywood three thick, and used my TS55 with a Standard saw blade to gang-rip them into 12" rips, then set the flip-stop on my Sawhelper to 14.5", and gang-cut the plywood rips to length six at a time. WAAAAAY faster than trying to either rip the plywood on a tablesaw or chalking lines and ripping freehand, and cutting the rips to length went even faster on the Sawhelper because I didn't need to mark a single piece, and I was cutting six rips at a time. Even with the time spent getting my TS55 and Sawhelper out and set up I still saved a ton of time in the end. The job coordinator initially looked at me kinda fun for getting all of the equipment out, but he was smiling by the end when he saw how much time I saved.

In the past I've used my RO150 with a 24 grit Saphir pad to blend subfloors that aren't quite planing out properly. I've also used my TS55 to gang-cut 1/2" OSB in stacks of three for soffits in basements.

Tom,

Ain't it fun to be sacrilegious!?!  ;D

Dan.

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Today I needed to process a lot of plywood for a roof renovation. I needed to produce around 200 plywood plates for use as wind wash blocking. I stacked sheets of 1/2" CDX plywood three thick, and used my TS55 with a Standard saw blade to gang-rip them into 12" rips, then set the flip-stop on my Sawhelper to 14.5", and gang-cut the plywood rips to length six at a time. WAAAAAY faster than trying to either rip the plywood on a tablesaw or chalking lines and ripping freehand, and cutting the rips to length went even faster on the Sawhelper because I didn't need to mark a single piece, and I was cutting six rips at a time. Even with the time spent getting my TS55 and Sawhelper out and set up I still saved a ton of time in the end. The job coordinator initially looked at me kinda fun for getting all of the equipment out, but he was smiling by the end when he saw how much time I saved.

In the past I've used my RO150 with a 24 grit Saphir pad to blend subfloors that aren't quite planing out properly. I've also used my TS55 to gang-cut 1/2" OSB in stacks of three for soffits in basements.

Tom,

Ain't it fun to be sacrilegious!?!  ;D

Dan.

Hi Dan! Oooh, yes indeed it's fun!!

    If I'm going to spend the money to get the nice tools, I want to USE those tools!  ;D It's funny, because a lot of my coworkers scoff when they find out how much I spend on my tools and equipment, but then they frown at me when I get to sit down for lunch before them because I accomplished my tasks ahead of schedule  8) I very often run into the "buy just enough to get by" attitude. For me, it's not just about the bottom line. Obviously I want to work efficiently, quickly, and achieve a good finished product. But I have also found that when you are using the right equipment it makes most tasks not only faster and better, but it also makes the tasks EASIER and more enjoyable. I often really look forward to going in to work because I know I'll be building using the best stuff on the market. I imagine it feels the same as a trucker enjoying his job because he knows he's driving the best rig on the road, or a pilot flying the latest and greatest fighter jet.

 

[Dan Clark]

... but then they frown at me when I get to sit down for lunch before them because I accomplished my tasks ahead of schedule  8) ...

Now Tom,

Let's not go dissin' on the lesser...  uhhh... uhmm...  other folk!  ;D

Dan.

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

... but then they frown at me when I get to sit down for lunch before them because I accomplished my tasks ahead of schedule  8) ...

Now Tom,

Let's not go dissin' on the lesser...  uhhh... uhmm...  other folk!  ;D

Dan.

My absolute favorite is at the end of the day, when I basically just pack up my tools and do a cursory clean-up, while some guys have to clean up caked-on layers of sawdust and MDF from their tools, and go all over their work areas with a vac and a swiffer to collect all of the dust they kicked-up. About a year ago I found a t-shirt on Amazon that said something like "Happiness is being covered with sawdust". I though it was pretty cool and almost bought it until I bought my first Festool. Now I'm looking for a shirt that says something like "Happiness is just packing your tools up in Systainers at the end of the day and not spending an hour cleaning up sawdust and shavings out of stud cavities and berber carpet at the end of each working day".  ;D

 

[Scott W.]

....... Now I'm looking for a shirt that says something like "Happiness is just packing your tools up in Systainers at the end of the day   ;D

Timmy C. Are you listening??