Is the Mafell A10M actually a Metabo drill?

Lemwise

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Hey guys, I just registered because I have a question I think you guys maybe able to answer. I'm a joiner and I'm looking for a compact drill. I came across the Mafell A10M and it looks like a nice piece of kit. I also came across the Metabo Powermaxx BS Quick and the specs for the two machines are identical which leads me to think Mafell is licensing from Metabo (because Metabo is the bigger company). Am I correct about this or does the Mafell have something extra not found on the Metabo?
 
So now the choice is between the Metabo and the Festool CXS. I'm leaning towards the CXS because the C shape looks very comfortable.
 
The metabo grip is quite bulky but think it is more powerful then CXS.

I keep considering the Metabo to compliment my CXS because the centrotec chucks also fit the Metabo.

Doug
 
Lemwise said:
Hey guys, I just registered because I have a question I think you guys maybe able to answer. I'm a joiner and I'm looking for a compact drill. I came across the Mafell A10M and it looks like a nice piece of kit. I also came across the Metabo Powermaxx BS Quick and the specs for the two machines are identical which leads me to think Mafell is licensing from Metabo (because Metabo is the bigger company). Am I correct about this or does the Mafell have something extra not found on the Metabo?
Yes they are the same thing. Same batt platform. Just different colours. Much more powerfull and more torque than Cxs.
 
I'm not sure I need the torque of the Metabo. I make yacht interiors and the screws we use for fabricating the interior are 3.0x25mm, 3.0x30mm, 4.0x30mm and 3.0x35mm in size. I have a 14.4 volt Panasonic for drilling pilot holes and things that require more oomph. I want something light and nimble just for driving screws. I did own a Bosch Professional 10.8 volt drill a couple of years ago but I found the handle to be quite bulky.
 
If you have owned the bosch gsr 10.8 the handle is about the same thickness as the a10m. So quite bulky.  Considering about the dimensions you meant. I think that the cxs would be a great choice.
 
The CXS will be perfect for what you do, it really is a great little drill.

Doug
 
The CXS has proved to be a lot more useful to me than I first thought it would be.
I find It's especially good for installation work.
 
Lemwise said:
I make yacht interiors and the screws we use for fabricating the interior are 3.0x25mm, 3.0x30mm, 4.0x30mm and 3.0x35mm in size.

Those are the sizes of screws I use most too and the CXS is absolutely up to the job. I love it so much that I bought a second one (dedicated to drilling (pilot)holes). The batteries take almost no time to charge & you get two of those with each CXS (or TXS).
 
I ordered the CXS today. I found a great deal online, it was only €207 and that's with the price of shipping included. If everything goes well, it should be delivered at my job tomorrow.
 
I got an A10M and I like it. It has a lot of torque, and uses standard 1/4" stuff which is ubiquitous.
Usually keeping the bit in the head is the hard part more so than the torque. So for drilling it is nice, but for driving a rattlely impact may be worthwhile.
 
I actually thought about getting an impact driver but given the size of screws we use it's overkill. It makes sense to get one if you're in construction but not in my line of work. I also don't like how loud they are.
 
So my CXS was delivered nice and early this morning at 9:00AM so I got to use it all day at work. I have to say I love this little drill. It's even more compact in person and the weight is pleasingly low. The first time I picked it up I found myself immediately holding it with my middle finger on the trigger and my index finger in line with the body like it was designed to be held that way. All in all, I'm very happy with this purchase.
 
I believe that Mafell licenses some of their products to/from other companies. Their specialty is saws and timber framing and they have some very interesting and unique tools. I'm certain they don't make vacuums and probably some of their drills. Their routers are suspect as well. Some of their tools make Festool look inexpensive.

Of particular interest is their Duo Doweler for joinery and shelf holes. They have a template with teeth that match teeth on the Duo Doweler base for exact spacing of dowels and shelf holes. Very well done.

They also have a grooving saw that cuts dados. I've gotten close to pulling the trigger on it, but the cost is ridiculous (I did just sell a tablesaw that was dedicated to cutting dados so it may be in my future). It also has a triple blade for cutting slots for bending wood and a 45 degree blade for making folding joints (in drywall) to avoid having to use corner bead. Very interesting and goes to show that the rest of the world does things different and sometimes quite a bit different that the US. Drywall is probably considered a trade equal to carpentry given how it is installed. It is certainly more upscale that the drywall business here (with some exceptions).

I think they stick to a core set of tools and focus on those versus trying to make every tool (and variation) possible.
 
JimH2 said:
I believe that Mafell licenses some of their products to/from other companies. Their specialty is saws and timber framing and they have some very interesting and unique tools. I'm certain they don't make vacuums and probably some of their drills. Their routers are suspect as well. Some of their tools make Festool look inexpensive.

I once read that their vacs are rebranded Starmix's. And also that Mafell produce the OF2200 for Festool, so building routers may be part of their core business.
 
As far as I know Mafell also builds the MT55 plunge cut saw. (I own that saw and it's the best I've ever used.)
 
Bert Vanderveen said:
JimH2 said:
I believe that Mafell licenses some of their products to/from other companies. Their specialty is saws and timber framing and they have some very interesting and unique tools. I'm certain they don't make vacuums and probably some of their drills. Their routers are suspect as well. Some of their tools make Festool look inexpensive.

I once read that their vacs are rebranded Starmix's. And also that Mafell produce the OF2200 for Festool, so building routers may be part of their core business.

The QF1400 is surprisingly similar in ergonomics to the 8-mm LO-50.
The QF1010 not so much.

I do not know if they share Elu DNA, but there are only a few ways to evolve and it seems natural that they converge.

In any case I took a shot on the A10M as the ex-Eu price was cheaper than the local Au price for the CXS... And I like it. I would need to hold both to make qualitative comparison, and there are some power/torque comparisons out on the web.
 
The Mafell LO65E router is the same as the old festool OF2000 and the smaller Mafell LO50E is the same as the Old Festool OF1000.

Doug
 
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