It's That Time Of Year...

This is pleasing to hear - since I haven't gotten around to getting the RTS abrasive set.
I would not wait too long on buying any of the Granat starter sets, because I think these are priced to clear-out inventory. For example, the D125 starter set was $125 before the August 2025 import fee raised the price to $132.50.
 
Brutal. I want to say I paid something like 199 at one point for my RTS years ago? Maybe $249?
I am pretty sure Festool used their small sanders as 'loss-leaders' in the US at some point in the past. The Pro 5 notwithstanding.

Those sanders are still cheaper over there than in Europe, relatively speaking, but the discrepancy is not that big anymore. Though do keep in mind EU does not have fixed prices. Those Festool.de prices are not really indicative of the going rates at the counter. If you want a good ballpark for German prices, search using idealo.de for the item.
 
I am pretty sure Festool used their small sanders as 'loss-leaders' in the US at some point in the past. The Pro 5 notwithstanding.

Those sanders are still cheaper over there than in Europe, relatively speaking, but the discrepancy is not that big anymore. Though do keep in mind EU does not have fixed prices. Those Festool.de prices are not really indicative of the going rates at the counter. If you want a good ballpark for German prices, search using idealo.de for the item.
I saw that the RTS 400 is upwards of 400 Euros on idealo. Perhaps FT.de doesn't bother with standardized pricing because they're more expensive than in North America?
 
I used to love to see the lists that Shane used to post here of the items and their new prices. I wonder if Festool clamped down on the release of that type of material. With the recent change in Festool policy, dealers are no longer able to advertise here, so something like that might have been prohibited anyway.

Peter
I really don't see the harm in posting a list of prices? It would just be a concentration of what the catalog already does, and since the prices are fixed, it's not like an advertisement.
 
Perhaps it's just me, but I've always thought Festool had decent battery prices, which are even better now with the price drops.

Certainly, theirs have been less, historically, than Milwaukee for batteries and chargers.
 
I used to love to see the lists that Shane used to post here of the items and their new prices. I wonder if Festool clamped down on the release of that type of material. With the recent change in Festool policy, dealers are no longer able to advertise here, so something like that might have been prohibited anyway.

Peter
I got an entire digital price list downloaded from Festool in 2024, so I doubt that would be the case. Easy to dump everything in Excel and publish.

When I worked at a dealership, I think we even got an Excel sheet from Festool with all the price changes. No NDA on it either.
 
I saw that the RTS 400 is upwards of 400 Euros on idealo. Perhaps FT.de doesn't bother with standardized pricing because they're more expensive than in North America?
It is not that. The EU sued Festool for it .. the prosecutor used an extended interpretation of the common EU trade laws on the edge to force Festool to abandon dealer pricing.

In practice this removed all 'protections' authorised dealers had from e-tail box-shifters just when e-tail was picking up steam, about 15 yrs ago.

That ruling effectively killed almost local Festool dealers who were one of the last holdouts of brick-and-mortar tool stores that were profitable. These days it is a 'free-for all' commodity market, so some great deals can be had on one hand but getting pretty much any advice from a seller even in a physical shop is a no-go. The qualified folks retired and no one will pay training a sales clerk that sells nothing .. the only few actual dealers worthy of the name specialise on the bigger contractor sales and supplies/accessories/spares/rentals for the small guys.

Most sales are on the lower-end of the prices you see on idealo. The higher-priced listings do not sell online and are there only to show the item is available. Should a known local come he would get a discount to /mostly/ match the e-tail price, assuming the item is in general production/available.
 
I would not wait too long on buying any of the Granat starter sets, because I think these are priced to clear-out inventory. For example, the D125 starter set was $125 before the August 2025 import fee raised the price to $132.50.
I got all excited and was ready to pounce yesterday when I got an email showing the D150 set for $350AUD, until I realised it's only 20 discs of each size.
 
Perhaps it's just me, but I've always thought Festool had decent battery prices, which are even better now with the price drops.

Certainly, theirs have been less, historically, than Milwaukee for batteries and chargers.
Especially considering the proportionate cost of the tools.
 
I got all excited and was ready to pounce yesterday when I got an email showing the D150 set for $350AUD, until I realised it's only 20 discs of each size.
Yeah, it’s not a perfect solution since you might use all of one grit first.

In the U.S. market: the D150 Systainer is $81.00 and the 60-piece D150 Granat abrasive assortment is $69.00 for a total of $150.00 versus the starter set that is now $129.00 with twice the amount of abrasive.
 
Yeah, it’s not a perfect solution since you might use all of one grit first.

In the U.S. market: the D150 Systainer is $81.00 and the 60-piece D150 Granat abrasive assortment is $69.00 for a total of $150.00 versus the starter set that is now $129.00 with twice the amount of abrasive.
The idea is that you then do not have to buy full 50/100 piece packs of grits that you rarely use. This is very appreciated for the higher grits which tend to not wear-out as fast.

$130 is a great deal for the starter set, they should keep it a permanent, even if a slightly more expensive down the line. The 10-packs set is a bit too little in my view on that front.
 
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