Just completed bookshelf job.
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Jon,
Nice job! I hope you used the LR-32 to drill the shelf pin holes!
Peter
Nice job! I hope you used the LR-32 to drill the shelf pin holes!
Peter
Peter,
I didn't use the lr 32. I got extremely lucky in that I'm getting to use some space (rent free, really)in my finishers shop. Which is a win-win. I get to build them without having to worry about delivering them to him, and oh, by the way, he has a Blum line boring machine collecting dust that he said I could use whenever I want to. I think I bored all six end panels in less than an hour, with minimal setup (and no shelf wobble!).
Tim, thanks! The client was extremely happy. My only worry is that I didn't provide enough shelving. There's about 13" between each shelf, and I think he's going to fill it up pretty quick.
Jon
I didn't use the lr 32. I got extremely lucky in that I'm getting to use some space (rent free, really)in my finishers shop. Which is a win-win. I get to build them without having to worry about delivering them to him, and oh, by the way, he has a Blum line boring machine collecting dust that he said I could use whenever I want to. I think I bored all six end panels in less than an hour, with minimal setup (and no shelf wobble!).
Tim, thanks! The client was extremely happy. My only worry is that I didn't provide enough shelving. There's about 13" between each shelf, and I think he's going to fill it up pretty quick.
Jon
Tim Raleigh said:
Tim, as far as design, the client wanted as much book storage along that wall as possible, I probably could have stretched the cabinets to the window casing, but I felt it would have been too crowded. Could have gone to the ceiling, but the cabinets barely made it up the third floor as they were!
Typically, if anything is over 8' long, I like to either bump it out, or bump it in. I do this partly out of habit and partly because I like how crown looks when you put breaks in it. The out o habit part comes from installing lots of Prefinished jobs where the trim only comes in 8' lengths...
Finish is M.L Cambell conversion varnish, with two coats of primer. I spec out conversion varnish on all of my jobs because I'm not sold on the durability of lacquer on white cabinets. Like I said, I install a lot of Prefinished cabinets, most of which are lacquer. When I go back to jobs for tune ups, I cringe at the beating cabinets take and the lack of protection from lacquer. Just my opinion.
The beads are attached, as I was matching existing cabinetry in the house. Not to mention its much faster.
Thanks for the feedback guys. Hope this helps with your questions.
Jon
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Jon, no good deed goes unpunished, so here's more questions.Jonhilgen said:
Jonhilgen said:
I think you made the right decision with regards to not stretching it to the window casing. I don't like it when the cabinetry crowds windows. I like the cases not going to the ceiling. I think the crown is totally appropriate.
Jonhilgen said:
Interesting. I like how the crown looks when it breaks.
Jonhilgen said:
So they are finished before you install?
I spec out conversion varnish on all of my jobs because I'm not sold on the durability of lacquer on white cabinets. Like I said, I install a lot of Prefinished cabinets, most of which are lacquer.
Have you tried Polyurethane rather than conversion varnish?
Jonhilgen said:
Are those kitchen cabinets that you see the beating or other?
Jonhilgen said:
Tim
Tim,
The cabinets are prefinished, less trouble for the homeowner with the same end result. I probably could have built the crown pediment and had it Prefinished as well, but I ran out of time. But, ironically it would have saved me a great deal of install time. Oh well.
I have not tried polyeurothane. I'll talk to my finisher about it. The cabinets I am referring to are indeed kitchen cabinets, which really bothers me because we're building a house and the mrs. wants white cabinets....
Questions don't bother me a bit, it's the best part of woodworking.
Jon
The cabinets are prefinished, less trouble for the homeowner with the same end result. I probably could have built the crown pediment and had it Prefinished as well, but I ran out of time. But, ironically it would have saved me a great deal of install time. Oh well.
I have not tried polyeurothane. I'll talk to my finisher about it. The cabinets I am referring to are indeed kitchen cabinets, which really bothers me because we're building a house and the mrs. wants white cabinets....
Questions don't bother me a bit, it's the best part of woodworking.
Jon
Tim,
I drill the holes prior to finishing. Which was quite easy since I had access to a Blum boring machine. As far as finishing the panels prior to assembly, I shy away from that. I tend to be clumsy, I it would only be a matter of time before I were to make an expensive mistake by damaging one of the panels during the assembly.
More pics, only this time with books. Which leaves me with one question: did I make the bookshelves too deep?
The left and right cabinets have an 11" interior depth, and the middle one has a 10" interior depth. After seeing his books in the shelves, it looks as though I could have knocked a couple of inches at least on the depth...
Jon
I drill the holes prior to finishing. Which was quite easy since I had access to a Blum boring machine. As far as finishing the panels prior to assembly, I shy away from that. I tend to be clumsy, I it would only be a matter of time before I were to make an expensive mistake by damaging one of the panels during the assembly.
More pics, only this time with books. Which leaves me with one question: did I make the bookshelves too deep?
The left and right cabinets have an 11" interior depth, and the middle one has a 10" interior depth. After seeing his books in the shelves, it looks as though I could have knocked a couple of inches at least on the depth...
Jon
You didn't make them too deep. Much more versatile this way.
Peter
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Peter is right - there is nothing worse than seeing books sticking out beyond the edge of the shelf. Some of us stack our books so that the fronts line up rather than the backs being in a line - unlike your (messy?) client.
You have made a great job - well done.
Peter
You have made a great job - well done.
Peter
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Jonhilgen said:
You never know when a client may want to put over sized books on their shelves... or their taxidermy collection
Stone Message said:
Hey hey now, that looks exactly like my book shelves...stacked 2 deep and books helter-skelter on the top of others...I really need to fix that...
Tim
I have some "book cases" that I got paid to pull out of a clients house years ago. Shelves 11.25 deep x 30" long in cabinets made out of underlayment grade particle board with 1/4" oak plywood laminated on the inside cabinet sides. I have them set up - on the list to redo - but the kicker was that the shelves were solid white oak. The previous owner was an attorney with law books who didn't want shelf sag. It is a shame that the shelves cost probably 4 times what the rest of the setup cost. [big grin] [big grin]
Many of the shelves are two books deep and several hold my FWW and FHB magazine collections going back 20 years. Deeper is better!
Peter
Many of the shelves are two books deep and several hold my FWW and FHB magazine collections going back 20 years. Deeper is better!
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looks good, yep bookcases are fun to make but lots of holes to drill and shelfs to paint !
