Kapex dust collection...

Toller

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I got my Festool catalog today. :-\

It says the Kapex has 91% dust collection.  Amazing if true...
Is that with a vacuum or a dust collector?

It showed the price at $1,300; amazing that they can just print the price and that's that.
Festool used to give a discount on new products; apparently they no longer do that?
 
Toller,

That is with Festool's CT. Can't imagine that it would be much different with a dust collector.
Festool is no longer offering "introductory pricing" on new tools.

Bob
 
Rick Christopherson said:
Bob Marino said:
Toller,

That is with Festool's CT. Can't imagine that it would be much different with a dust collector.
Festool is no longer offering "introductory pricing" on new tools.

Bob
Actually Bob, a dust collector does not have enough static pressure to be used on a small diameter fitting like this. It needs to be some sort of shop vac to work properly, and this applies to all small tools, not just Kapex.

Well that is true to a point.  A well designed system that uses reducer fittings and gates on a central cyclone (or other) system will have the correct static pressure at the point in the system the sanders are being used.

Actually I have a 1.5 HP Jet collector(in addition to my grizzly cyclone) with  two 4" outlets. If I hook it up with only one reducer and connect it to a 1" hose on my sanders I am still totally dustless. I am sure the static pressure is not what it should be, but in the real world it does work in my shop with my vac and my hose with an ETS 125 or 150.

ADD * This does NOT work with my miter saw at all.  I am sure the Festool sander design helps to overcome the static pressures to a point.
 
Rick Christopherson said:
Bob Marino said:
Toller,

That is with Festool's CT. Can't imagine that it would be much different with a dust collector.
Festool is no longer offering "introductory pricing" on new tools.

Bob
Actually Bob, a dust collector does not have enough static pressure to be used on a small diameter fitting like this. It needs to be some sort of shop vac to work properly, and this applies to all small tools, not just Kapex.

When I have a dust collector and a hood on my Dewalt it gets about 75% of the dust.  When I have a vacuum attached to the dust port on the Dewalt, it gets about 25%.
I expect the Festool is better designed for dust collection than the Dewalt; it almost has to be.

I haven't tried the DC on the dust port, but I expect it would be real close to 0%
 
Toller said:
Rick Christopherson said:
Bob Marino said:
Toller,

That is with Festool's CT. Can't imagine that it would be much different with a dust collector.
Festool is no longer offering "introductory pricing" on new tools.

Bob
Actually Bob, a dust collector does not have enough static pressure to be used on a small diameter fitting like this. It needs to be some sort of shop vac to work properly, and this applies to all small tools, not just Kapex.

When I have a dust collector and a hood on my Dewalt it gets about 75% of the dust.  When I have a vacuum attached to the dust port on the Dewalt, it gets about 25%.
I expect the Festool is better designed for dust collection than the Dewalt; it almost has to be.

I haven't tried the DC on the dust port, but I expect it would be real close to 0%

Yes my miters dust collection is zero using the dust port .  Just setting 4" hose next to my saw I get much better results. When I cut and put a bag on nothing really get collected to begin with. It has to be one of the worst out there. My DeWalt slider(old model) was not much better.

ADD - I can't wait for the Kapex, if it collects the dust, everything else it does is gravy for me. I almost purchased a 240 V Kapex from Australia the other day I was so fed up with my box.
 
Nick, I must second you on that. I have a wonderful LS1013 but the dust collection is such that it drives me crazy. Can't wait for the Kapex.  ;D :D ;) Fred
 
Michael, yeah darn as I am going to buy it anyway why would I want it to be for less?  :D ;) Fred
 
nickao said:
Well that is true to a point.  A well designed system that uses reducer fittings and gates on a central cyclone (or other) system will have the correct static pressure at the point in the system the sanders are being used.

Actually I have a 1.5 HP Jet collector(in addition to my grizzly cyclone) with  two 4" outlets. If I hook it up with only one reducer and connect it to a 1" hose on my sanders I am still totally dustless. I am sure the static pressure is not what it should be, but in the real world it does work in my shop with my vac and my hose with an ETS 125 or 150.

ADD * This does NOT work with my miter saw at all.  I am sure the Festool sander design helps to overcome the static pressures to a point.

Hi,

    I could see this working with the sanders partly because they need very little suction to start with (hence using turtle speed). But when I tried this a couple times on other tools I had poor results.

Seth
 
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