Kitchen island completed

JCLP

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Just finished it. Thought I would share.
Merry Christmas,
JC

 

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VW mick said:
Nice one looks really good ..
Thanks VW. They only thing I don't like about it is that the client wanted it to be only 24" deep. I tried convincing her to go 30", but she refused.+
 
So would the extra have been just the top or the base units as well .looks like there is enough room in the kitchen
 
VW mick said:
So would the extra have been just the top or the base units as well .looks like there is enough room in the kitchen
The top and cabinets would have been deeper by 6". The client wanted to keep a straight path from the hallway to the back door and not have to walk around the island. The kitchen is large enough, but they still wanted that straight line.
 
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VW mick said:
Ha ha well the customer is always right

The customer is very rarely right . You just need to know how to  convince them into thinking  that your idea is  " their " idea  [big grin]
 
Looks fantastic, unfortunately non-compliant as a new kitchen countertop top
No visible receptacle installed; kitchen islands are required to have a receptacle
Sorry for being a stick in the mud
 
Holzhacker said:
Looks fantastic, unfortunately non-compliant as a new kitchen countertop top
No visible receptacle installed; kitchen islands are required to have a receptacle
Sorry for being a stick in the mud
Thanks for the compliment. My island has 2 receptacle and I am very happy that I put them in. I did ask the client if she wanted some, but with a finished ceiling in the basement she felt it was too much work to have wires snaked to the island from the panel in the basement.
Non-compliant? Is that a code requirement where you are? The top is white quartz.
Cheers,
JC
 
A requirement under the NEC and various years of the ICC electrical codes depending on which year of the Code a municipality has adopted. I see from your profile you are in the great white north. Probably also a requirement up there but since that's not my territory I can't say for sure.
 
Holzhacker said:
A requirement under the NEC and various years of the ICC electrical codes depending on which year of the Code a municipality has adopted. I see from your profile you are in the great white north. Probably also a requirement up there but since that's not my territory I can't say for sure.
You got me curious, so I went and looked at rule 26-712(d) of the Ontario Electrical Safety Code and found that a receptacle is required  for a permanently fixed island counter space that is greater then 300mmx600mm. So I guess it is the same up here. But there is one key word "permanent" which is defined in the code as being fixed to the floor with fasteners. If the island is movable and is not fixed to the floor with fasteners, then no receptacles are required.
So for my project, as the island is not fixed to the floor and can be moved by the homeowner, no receptacle is required and we are too code.
Thanks for bringing this up. Now I will know for the future.
Cheers,
JC

 
Very nice! Love the clean look and straight lines.

And thanks for the education on the electrical code. That may come in handy for a future project...
 
sorry guys .can you define what you mean by receptacle .i presume you mean a power point of some sort
 
VW mick said:
sorry guys .can you define what you mean by receptacle .i presume you mean a power point of some sort

Yes - An electrical outlet to plug things into.

Peter
 
JC

Is the Island on wheels so that it can be moved easily? Not sure why homeowner would move unit around kitchen, especially if not on some sort of movable base.

David
 
yes in the trades the correct terminology is 'receptacle' which is the thing homeowners call an 'outlet'; I've had homeowners ask me all too often 'what is a receptacle'
same when using words like 'device or means of disconnect'; I used to work with a Sparky who's use of electrical jargon was way mind boggling, unfortunately he wasn't very good at saying things in plain english, I used to have to translate a lot of what he said so people would understand, frustrating but funny considering everyone was speaking english, oh wait I meant American
wouldn't want the UK'ers to be offended considering how we have bastardized their perfect tongue  [big grin]
a lot of the electrical requirements for kitchens and general rooms are intended to cut down on the use of extension cords
 
land_kel said:
JC

Is the Island on wheels so that it can be moved easily? Not sure why homeowner would move unit around kitchen, especially if not on some sort of movable base.

David
Hi David. The island is not on wheels. It is very heavy and not easy to move but to be within code it is not anchored to the floor with fasteners, thus not considered permanent therefore no receptacle needed. Now we will probably end up moving it when we complete the rest of the kitchen.
Cheers,
JC
 
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