Lawyer Table Saw TV Ad

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I know the topic has come up before here (don't want to re-hash it) but saw this commerical last night.  Have never seen it before.

 
Wow. [sad]
If Sawstop really wanted to make a better world for woodworkers, then they would license their technology, at a reasonable rate, to all saw makers.  Avarice is not appealing.
 
So SawStop is behind this add?  I thought it was an add for a law firm.

Rob
 
NYC Tiny Shop said:
Wow. [sad]
I no longer want a Sawstop, because it would mean supporting this despicable company.  If they really wanted to make a better world for woodworkers, then they would license their technology at a reasonable rate to all saw makers.  Avarice is not appealing.

+1!!!  Steve Gass impresses me as nothing but a greedy ambulance-chaser, and I'll not be one supporting him. 

 
The same account has a number of similar ads on youtube on other unrelated topics.  Same individual too.  I wouldn't rush to judgement.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if Steve Gass was behind the ads.  May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his armpits and crotch, and may he never have sufficient fingers to scratch where it itches!!! 

[mad]

 
The ad on TV last night was soliciting people to call the lawyers place and was a paid legal advertisement, but did seem to "endorse" a certain product.  It did catch my attention!
 
Bhend18 said:
Use a Festool Track Saw. Table saws are dangerous.  [big grin]

This topic has been covered many times and for solid wood furniture builders that is not a viable option in my humble opinion.  [wink]

Jack
 
Guys, we all have our (probably very strong) opinions of this type of thing and the implications of lawsuits in our industry. This sort of thing threatens the livelihoods of people like me.

But, this is from a company, CAMG or Consumer Attorney Marketing Group, that help lawyers market their services by putting together these types of ads. There's no phone number or contact information because this is a generic template. Their YouTube channel is riddled with examples of all sorts of lawsuit ads and the like.

It's doubtful that any company other than them was behind the creation of the video.

Shane
 
I suspect that there a few SawStop employees on this site and probably even reading this very thread and so I respectfully say this to them: You just lost me! I've been thinking and started to plan a table saw upgrade. I narrowed it down to a Hammer and a SawStop and I am now going with the Hammer because I simply don't like spending thousands of dollars with bullsh*ters. Especially when I don't have too. If safety where your true concern you would figure out a way to go 'down market' and make more cost effective table saws for the betterment of mankind. But that isn't really your goal. Your strategy is seriously misguided because if you can't go 'down market' than you should know that your target market audience (like members of FOG) will make decisions and pay a premium based on the merits (quality, safety, value) of your product. Just like we do w/ Festool.  So go on, continue to use fear as a sales tactic, enlist ambulance chasers and devalue the merits of your own product because, SawStop, you are fired!

As a FOG member, I love coming to this site and I try to stay out of conversations that are confrontational but this reaches new levels of low. I did a quick Google search and this add does tie back to an actual firm http://www.lawyerworks.com/personal-injury/table-saw-injury-lawyer.php

As previously discussed, its well known that SawStop tried to force other manufacturers to use their patent and, to me, the SawStop plug in the middle of the video makes it obvious that they are involved. Anyone own a Hammer Table Saw and have some feedback?
 
Sparktrician said:
It wouldn't surprise me if Steve Gass was behind the ads.  May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his armpits and crotch, and may he never have sufficient fingers to scratch where it itches!!!  

[mad]

If there where a FOG hall of fame of amazing posts this one would have to be in the mix!  [tongue]
 
Loath me, hate me, indemnify me for saying it, but the SawStop is an extremely well built, functional machine with top notch safety features. To just dismiss it because you don't approve of their marketing method is tantamount to saying your fingers just aren't worth the money.

Fact is, the US is one of the most avaristic countries this world has ever seen. Yet, it's a wonder to see how many people whining about Gass wanting too much profit. Original licensing request by Gass was 8% I believe. Even on a $3000 tablesaw, that means a paltry licensing charge of $240. Even smokers usually pay much more than that per year on a completely wasteful, deadly product.

Gass is not breaking any laws, he's adhering to the right to charge what he wants and he has what I'd call a fairly priced product that can save many, many people from injuries that are often catastrophic.

Moderators, if you feel this message is antagonistic, then go ahead and delete it. But, take into fact that it's the truth as many including me see it.
 
Motown said:
If safety where your true concern you would figure out a way to go 'down market' and make more cost effective table saws for the betterment of mankind. But that isn't really your goal.

US drug companies sell their products for higher rates than many other drug companies worldwide. Yet, I see very few complaining about them. They're in the business of making money wherever they can. Why aren't you complaining about companies making BILLIONS on the backs of people who need their products to survive?
 
Shane Holland said:
Guys, we all have our (probably very strong) opinions of this type of thing and the implications of lawsuits in our industry. This sort of thing threatens the livelihoods of people like me.

But, this is from a company, CAMG or Consumer Attorney Marketing Group, that help lawyers market their services by putting together these types of ads. There's no phone number or contact information because this is a generic template. Their YouTube channel is riddled with examples of all sorts of lawsuit ads and the like.

It's doubtful that any company other than them was behind the creation of the video.

Bravo! Despite dislike of SawStop and Gass, you have the integrity to voice what could be considered a logical, honest opinion even though it might deter a few people.
 
Shane Holland said:
Guys, we all have our (probably very strong) opinions of this type of thing and the implications of lawsuits in our industry. This sort of thing threatens the livelihoods of people like me.

But, this is from a company, CAMG or Consumer Attorney Marketing Group, that help lawyers market their services by putting together these types of ads. There's no phone number or contact information because this is a generic template. Their YouTube channel is riddled with examples of all sorts of lawsuit ads and the like.

It's doubtful that any company other than them was behind the creation of the video.

Shane

These types of ads are sometimes called 'slugs' - going back to the days of lead type slugs, but perhaps equally apropos in this case!

They are produced on spec and are offered to TV stations to sell to local clients. The station just drops in the phone number and other information and it looks like the ad was produced for the local attorney. I, too, have my doubst that SawStop paid to be a part of that. They were just cited as a company that has a much safer product that makes everybody else look bad by comparison.

If the attorney's who run the spots don't get any takers, they (the spots, not the attorneys) will disappear just as quickly as they appeared. Unfortunately the 'slugs' that are the attorneys seem to stay around forever...
 
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