Ive owned Makita jobsite table saws and Rousseau stands for 35 years...my go to cumbersome but efficient saw for site use. In the shop I have a 10' sliding table saw that backs up to a left tilt Unisaw. Most recent purchase was a CSC SYS 50 to cut ¾ ceiling scribe, and toekick. Upgraded it with an Incra fence and stop. Easily dolleyed onto jobsite and no need to carry four stands, a table saw, and a miter saw for thin material anymore!!
Anyone Else Have Buyer's Remorse?
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I've been happy with a Sawstop Job site saw.
I had a Swiss made Inca before (along with Inca bandsaw and J/P) and make a ton of furniture with them, but was glad to move to the Sawstop for capacity, standard blades, a nice fence, portability and of course safety.
I've looked at and played with the FT saw at my dealer, and could see it as valuable for quick trim projects on site or small model building in the shop where a smaller saw might come in handy.
I don't have any regrets with my Festools. Started with a track saw and then ran across a lot of used tools from a dealer that was closing out their stock online. That started my path down sanders and routers. I've been pleased with most all of them.
I will buy some tools in advance of 'needing' them but definitely have a project in mind when I buy them even if it is not immediately.
I had a Swiss made Inca before (along with Inca bandsaw and J/P) and make a ton of furniture with them, but was glad to move to the Sawstop for capacity, standard blades, a nice fence, portability and of course safety.
I've looked at and played with the FT saw at my dealer, and could see it as valuable for quick trim projects on site or small model building in the shop where a smaller saw might come in handy.
I don't have any regrets with my Festools. Started with a track saw and then ran across a lot of used tools from a dealer that was closing out their stock online. That started my path down sanders and routers. I've been pleased with most all of them.
I will buy some tools in advance of 'needing' them but definitely have a project in mind when I buy them even if it is not immediately.
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In my mind, there was a golden era of Festool innovation. I consider the MFT mounted Conturo to be part of the CMS concept. Anyone who has used the table mounted Conturo, then, removed it, to finish the job hand held, knows just how innovative Festool has been. I know I sound like a curmudgeon, but come Festy, fire the safety heads and get back to the task at hand. Innovate!
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Econoline said:
Spot on. On the other hand I think the CS50/70 and TKS 80 are good. I don’t see the point of a battery powered table saw but okay. What I don’t understand, that since CMS is discontinued, there has been no router table alternative from Festool
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Ace8 said:
A year or so ago, I would have said the same thing about a battery powered miter saw, but after giving the Makita XSL a chance, they are very good.
I would bet that the CSC SYS is great, in the right application. The digital blade height, sliding table, and portability, look to be just the thing for the job it was intended to do.
It may not be the powerhouse that some of the other saws can be, but if it's not needed and saves the weight and space required?
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I have been using table saws over 50 years. Powermatic, Delta unisaw w/beisimier, Makita/rouseu set up, saw stop, and countless job site saws.
When I had a crew of 5 guys and always a helper at my side I have ripped and crosscut thousands of sheets of plywood on tablesaws. Cross cut plywood on a sled, and switched back and forth from dado, rip, and crosscut blades. Working alone now it's different. Plywood is broke down with tracksaw. No need for outfield tables or sleds anymore. Dados and groves 1010 router. It takes me more time but I tell myself I'm working alone so it will take more time.
I got my track saw in 2017 and was told at the time it was the single answer to everything. It was not I soon found out. I'm at the end of my career and only doing finish work now. I had a hard time making repeat parallel cuts with track saw. Tried aftermarket fence on the TS55, bought a TKS55 with fence, parallel guides for track, etc and no luck getting the cuts on site that I needed.
I picked up 2 saw stop contractor saws at a discounted price and got dado blades and back up cartridges and all that. Built a road case for one saw to stay in the truck and use on site. The road case doubled as a base for the saw. The second saw is stationary in my shop with a nice Festool systainer outfield table. Turned out saw I was using on site was to big to lug around. Sold it and bought the saw stop CTS. The compact saw checked all the boxes for me but was still to heavy and awkward to carry around.
When news started with the Festool table saw in a box I said this is the one. Bought it the second day it came out and love it. Cost me $2500 with cart, 4 batteries, extra blades, etc. It does my parallel cuts like I wanted and much more. I found out by surprise if I'm trimming out a window with jamb extensions the saw is all I need. I can rip and crosscut stock up to 6 feet. Miters are as accurate as a chopsaw using the sliding table.
Now when I was demolishing a room full of lath and plaster last November with old rough 2 by 4's and ripping old stock I dug out the Makita and the rouseu drop in table. I let everyone on the job use it, floor guys, Electrican etc. When I came to the finish work, I brought in the sys 50 and I threatened everyone and told them to not even look at it. They all laughed at my toy and said not to worry.
So I'm thinking maybe it is a luxury or a toy, but no, its not. Easy set up with no cord, and a sturdy cart to sit on with a built in outfield support. Freehand tapered cuts for scribing and parallel cuts with fence. Accurate crosscuts and miters using the slider and miter gauge. Not much dust using bag or vac. Plus all the little things like push stick placement on fence, index mark on table to lineup cross cuts, and it all fits in a portable sustainer.
So no buyers remorse here. It is the perfect saw for me at this stage of my career.
I have been using table saws over 50 years. Powermatic, Delta unisaw w/beisimier, Makita/rouseu set up, saw stop, and countless job site saws.
When I had a crew of 5 guys and always a helper at my side I have ripped and crosscut thousands of sheets of plywood on tablesaws. Cross cut plywood on a sled, and switched back and forth from dado, rip, and crosscut blades. Working alone now it's different. Plywood is broke down with tracksaw. No need for outfield tables or sleds anymore. Dados and groves 1010 router. It takes me more time but I tell myself I'm working alone so it will take more time.
I got my track saw in 2017 and was told at the time it was the single answer to everything. It was not I soon found out. I'm at the end of my career and only doing finish work now. I had a hard time making repeat parallel cuts with track saw. Tried aftermarket fence on the TS55, bought a TKS55 with fence, parallel guides for track, etc and no luck getting the cuts on site that I needed.
I picked up 2 saw stop contractor saws at a discounted price and got dado blades and back up cartridges and all that. Built a road case for one saw to stay in the truck and use on site. The road case doubled as a base for the saw. The second saw is stationary in my shop with a nice Festool systainer outfield table. Turned out saw I was using on site was to big to lug around. Sold it and bought the saw stop CTS. The compact saw checked all the boxes for me but was still to heavy and awkward to carry around.
When news started with the Festool table saw in a box I said this is the one. Bought it the second day it came out and love it. Cost me $2500 with cart, 4 batteries, extra blades, etc. It does my parallel cuts like I wanted and much more. I found out by surprise if I'm trimming out a window with jamb extensions the saw is all I need. I can rip and crosscut stock up to 6 feet. Miters are as accurate as a chopsaw using the sliding table.
Now when I was demolishing a room full of lath and plaster last November with old rough 2 by 4's and ripping old stock I dug out the Makita and the rouseu drop in table. I let everyone on the job use it, floor guys, Electrican etc. When I came to the finish work, I brought in the sys 50 and I threatened everyone and told them to not even look at it. They all laughed at my toy and said not to worry.
So I'm thinking maybe it is a luxury or a toy, but no, its not. Easy set up with no cord, and a sturdy cart to sit on with a built in outfield support. Freehand tapered cuts for scribing and parallel cuts with fence. Accurate crosscuts and miters using the slider and miter gauge. Not much dust using bag or vac. Plus all the little things like push stick placement on fence, index mark on table to lineup cross cuts, and it all fits in a portable sustainer.
So no buyers remorse here. It is the perfect saw for me at this stage of my career.
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