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jmbfestool

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Has any one used this stuff before!  Looks like them cheap doors you get in council houses.

Seems like a good solution to give this Rich big chunky look of solid wood but still keep it light easy to work with and stable with not warping or twisting.    Something to keep in mind when building like a Wardrobe for some one. 
I see it has ZIP like bolts you use on work tops  but this stuff it like hallow so dont see how they can work but they must do as they sell them for that reason

http://www.hettich.com/images/media_hg/ffa08_g08_en.pdf

JMB
 
speed said:
ive not used it but have seen some in bnq

it was 55mm worktop

LoL looks like your the only person on FOG whos seen it.  So no one on Fog has used it

JMB
 
i bet loads of us have seen it before in some form, eg that chunky looking bookshelf in my father in laws living room, from ikea and is light..

i think the sale of sheet form to the public is a new thing ive only recently seen it in bnq
 
Is it the same structure as for doors? I've never seen it here (France) but it would certainly save my back - worktops are too heavy. How do the worktop fixings manage to hold it together? Is the core very strong?
Richard
 
The core is a honeycomb.  The edges are solid wood.  Hardware is attached to an anchor that is glued / epoxied in place.  The goop fills the cell in that area.  i read an article years ago in Fine Woodworking about the use of lite weight honeycomb panels in the build out of helicopter interiors.  Pretty cool, but expensive.

Peter
 
I can't view JMB's link for some reason, but honeycomb materials have been around for a long time.  I helped build some humongous conference tables in the 70's using honeycomb cardboard with veneers.  The stuff is amazingly strong, but doesn't take well to water.
 
jmbfestool said:
Has any one used this stuff before!  Looks like them cheap doors you get in council houses.

Seems like a good solution to give this Rich big chunky look of solid wood but still keep it light easy to work with and stable with not warping or twisting.    Something to keep in mind when building like a Wardrobe for some one.   
I see it has ZIP like bolts you use on work tops  but this stuff it like hallow so dont see how they can work but they must do as they sell them for that reason

http://www.hettich.com/images/media_hg/ffa08_g08_en.pdf

JMB

i have it in my kitchen, doesnt joint up very well. My joints looked perfect when i bolted but then the morning after the top layer has risen up slighty and opened the joint.
 
richard.selwyn said:
Is it the same structure as for doors? I've never seen it here (France) but it would certainly save my back - worktops are too heavy. How do the worktop fixings manage to hold it together? Is the core very strong?
Richard

Well looking at the picture let say if you go with the 8mm stuff. You router? Drill?  Through one layer and then just go 4mm into the next. The bolts just like work top bolts  will sit in the 4mm rebate and is wide enough to the. Still cathc the other 8mm piece. That how the work top bolts hold.

Not much glueing area in my opinion if it was my job and I was jointing that stuff together at the ends where the work tops join I would glue a piece of wood flush I could then use my domino to keep it in line also more glue area stopping the work top moving up or Down.     Maybe that's what happened to yours Dean?

Jmb
 
Jesse Cloud said:
I can't view JMB's link for some reason, but honeycomb materials have been around for a long time.  I helped build some humongous conference tables in the 70's using honeycomb cardboard with veneers.  The stuff is amazingly strong, but doesn't take well to water.

Maybe you need adobe PDF reader installed?

Jmb
 
richard.selwyn said:
Is it the same structure as for doors? I've never seen it here (France) but it would certainly save my back - worktops are too heavy. How do the worktop fixings manage to hold it together? Is the core very strong?
Richard

Oh yeah uk doors flush panels are the same or look pretty much the same very poor one kick with your toe and you have a nice hole for your cat or dog to walk through haahaa!    The new 4 or 6 panel hollow doors are not as bad but still easy to kick in.
 
jmbfestool said:
richard.selwyn said:
Is it the same structure as for doors? I've never seen it here (France) but it would certainly save my back - worktops are too heavy. How do the worktop fixings manage to hold it together? Is the core very strong?
Richard

Oh yeah uk doors flush panels are the same or look pretty much the same very poor one kick with your toe and you have a nice hole for your cat or dog to walk through haahaa!    The new 4 or 6 panel hollow doors are not as bad but still easy to kick in.

did you forget the keys to them too [poke] [poke] [poke] [poke] [big grin]
 
Alan m said:
jmbfestool said:
richard.selwyn said:
Is it the same structure as for doors? I've never seen it here (France) but it would certainly save my back - worktops are too heavy. How do the worktop fixings manage to hold it together? Is the core very strong?
Richard

Oh yeah uk doors flush panels are the same or look pretty much the same very poor one kick with your toe and you have a nice hole for your cat or dog to walk through haahaa!    The new 4 or 6 panel hollow doors are not as bad but still easy to kick in.

did you forget the keys to them too [poke] [poke] [poke] [poke] [big grin]

Haaahaaa lol as if you remember that! Lol

Jmb
 
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