Longer Profile CS 50 & Fence for the MFT3

johnsonri

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I wish for an available longer Profile CS 50 part. It seems that Festool only has this part in one length and that proves to be too short when using table with rail connected lengthways using the FS1400.

The first pic shows the part that I am referring to. The second pic shows my current setup and with the fence extended as far as possible.

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It would also be nice to have a longer fence available too.
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Rey
 
Rey Johnson said:
I wish for an available longer Profile CS 50 part. It seems that Festool only has this part in one length and that proves to be too short when using table with rail connected lengthways using the FS1400.

The first pic shows the part that I am referring to.

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The part you arrowed (item No 32) is 464523, Profile CS 50

It slides forwards and backwards in item No  35 - 488433, Clamping element

The CS50 Precisio table saw has a bigger brother - the CS70. The two saws share some parts, and if you look at the following parts diagram of the CS70, you'll see the CS70 clamping element (Item 221) and the profile slides in it (Item 203)

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The CS70 clamping element (item 221) is actually the same part (Order No 488433) as the clamping element on the CS50 (item 35). However the CS70 profile (item 203) is different, and is designated 465708 Profile CS 70.

Since the CS70 has a larger table area, it is possible that the CS70 profile is longer, and therefore might be what you are after. Since both profiles slide in the same clamping element, it is very likely that they are interchangeable.

I've measured the CS50 Profile, and it's 300mm long. Some European and Australian FOG members have the CS70, and if they could measure the CS70 profile, we should be able to test the theory.

For example, FOG member Mettes said he had a CS70 last year, and if you send him a PM he may have time to measure the profile for you.

It would also be nice to have a longer fence available too.

I have just checked, and the Fence (455246 Stop profile) from the MFT1080 will fit onto the Swivelling Segment (item No 53 in your diagram). This fence is 1220mm/48" long, so it sounds as though it should be long enough for you, and can be mounted in horizontal or vertical modes. However one disadvantage is that there is a gap of about 1/4" between the top of the table and the bottom of the MFT1080 fence when you mount it on the Swivelling Segment. This shouldn't be a problem in most cases, but thin plywood or hardboard etc will slip under it.

Forrest

 
Thanks Forrest

It seems that the part on the CS70 (part 201) is what I am looking for. I checked the Festool USA site and they don't have it. I wonder how I'd go about getting this in the USA. Do you happen to know if this can be shipped to the states?

As for a longer fence, yep, I have that MFT 1080 fence and have tried it. Though it works, I'm not happy with it as a solution...that 1/4" gap is a deal breaker  :).

Thanks for your suggestion and for pointing me to the CS70.

Rey
 
Rey Johnson said:
It seems that the part on the CS70 (part 201) is what I am looking for.

Have you had confirmation that it's significantly longer than the one for the CS50? You probably wouldn't want to spend your hard-earned cash on something that's only an inch or so longer.

I checked the Festool USA site and they don't have it. I wonder how I'd go about getting this in the USA. Do you happen to know if this can be shipped to the states?

Might be worth working through the Festool UK Dealer Directory and e-mailing some dealers to see if they are happy to ship a spare part to the USA. E-mail addresses are available if you click on a dealer's name.

As for a longer fence, yep, I have that MFT 1080 fence and have tried it. Though it works, I'm not happy with it as a solution...that 1/4" gap is a deal breaker  :).

OK!

The fence that comes with the Trimming Attachment KA-KS for the Kapex looks interesting. Here is the whole assembly, which supports long lengths of wood on one side of the Kapex:

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In the following parts diagram (which shows the back side of what's in the photo above), have a look at Item 30:

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The cross-section of Item 30 looks as though it might fit and it should be long enough. It's not too expensive either. Part 21 is another possibility, but I don't know how long it is.

This time we need to find someone who has this accessory for the Kapex (the Trimming Attachment isn't available in the USA), plus a CS50, CS70 or MFT/3 to fit it to.

Forrest
 
If my memory serves me correctly, a question was asked in the training class (maybe by me, I don't remember) about a longer fence for the mft so that more flip stops could be used?  I am Foggy but I think that the Kapex fence has a profile the works.

SHANE!!  Help please!

Sorry for shouting.

Peter
 
You might take a look at 8020.net - I have some of their aluminum profiles that I purchased on eBay - you might be able to adapt it to the current fence on the MFT3 to enable a much longer fence. 

neilc
 
Sorry for the late reaction, I just noticed this thread now. I have a cs70, a mft3 and the kapex trimming attachments. The profile Forrest mentioned for the cs70 measures 430 mm.

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The standard CS70 fence is on the left in this picture, the other one is from the mft3.

The kapex trimming attachment is compatible with the mft3 fence, and it rests on the table, but due to the thickness of the profile it doesn't extend to underneath the guiderail, like de mft3 fence does when used on the "flat" side.

BTW, I think the trimming attachment is available in the US now, and it's been improved, by adding stabiliser bars so it isn't easily bumped out of position anymore when used with the kapex.
 
At the first training class I asked about a longer fence for the MFT/3 so that you could use multiple flip stops.  This remedy was mentioned along with the fact that the solution wouldn't fit under the guiderail.  The solution raise up the guiderail and slip  scrap under your workpiece.

Peter
 
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