Mafell on sale by Timber Wolf tools

[RKA]

I think Cheese meant to include this link:
https://tsoproducts.com/tso-products-guide-rail-squares/

I have been waiting for a guide rail square as well.  I think the last time I contacted TSO was before Bosch was brought to NA.  Now with that development and the recent Mafell sale, I wonder if it would be feasible for them to entertain development of a Bosch/Mafell compatible GRS?  If you're interested, reach out to them!! 

The only other option is a fellow over in the UK.  The raw cost and shipping back to NA was pricey the last time I checked. 

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

A reminder that the MT-55 works just fine with the Festool guide rails. I kept a few around and am using them with my TSO parallel guides and my MT-55cc.

 

[Roachmill]

Hopefully TSO will come out with an adapter for the rail square to work with Mafell rails.

Taiga Tools (Swedish? makers of the alternative DF500 connectors and a MFT holy jig) have just started doing their own rail squares. Couldn't find them on their main site but they've been showing them on Facebook with a discount code:
https://www.facebook.com/222175511449710/posts/966795033654417/

The FC Rail Square (made in Scotland) fits both Festool compatible rails as well as Bosch / Mafell ones. Either side of the square has different mounts. Not sure they look as easy to connect as the TSO and Taiga ones though:
https://karpenter.co.uk/product/fc-hybrid-rail-square-mark-7/

So there are options for Mafell rails but you'll get financially walloped for importing. I have 2 TSO squares and know just how unpleasant that is :/ But if money were an issue I doubt you'd be buying Mafell

 

[Svar]

To those who bought MT55 from US dealer:
Does the motor label say 110V 50Hz or 120V 60Hz?
According to diagram all electrical component numbers in UK 110v version and US models are the same.

 

[Cheese]

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[Svar]

Thank you, Cheese. Mafell bothered to make US specific sticker.

 

[RKA]

Thanks [member=53696]Roachmill[/member] !  The FC rail square was the one I was thinking of.  I did not know about the taiga, it looks like just just announced it and the price isn’t bad at around $120 each.  30 euro shipping though.  Free shipping if you order 2 or more (or maybe that’s a mistake in their shopping cart software).  So I put in an order for 2, 1 for me and one for someone here I guess? 

 

[ScotF]

I have reached out to TSO and keep pushing for a Mafell rail square. Hopefully in the future.

 

[Cheese]

The way I'm going to approach it is to adjust the MT 55 base to fit the Festool rail/splinter strip and then I can use it along with the TSC, HKC, GRS-16 and GRS-16 PE.

Because everyone fawns over the Mafell rail system, I'm going to purchase the Mafell Aerofix rail to use with the P1 cc and MT 55. 

 

[PeterJJames13]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] I'm sure if you call and speak with Timberwolf about the Aerofix they'll suggest the longer vacuum hose for it. I bought it and find it useful for longer cuts. Just wanted to make you aware that it's a big help and worth it (for me, anyway) in case you just order online and don't speak with them. It's a great system!

 

[Cheese]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] I'm sure if you call and speak with Timberwolf about the Aerofix they'll suggest the longer vacuum hose for it. I bought it and find it useful for longer cuts. Just wanted to make you aware that it's a big help and worth it (for me, anyway) in case you just order online and don't speak with them. It's a great system!

Thanks for that Peter...I'll give them a call before I order the rail. I talked with them when I ordered the MT 55, nice people to talk with, very friendly, great user experience.  [smile]

 

[Roachmill]

The way I'm going to approach it is to adjust the MT 55 base to fit the Festool rail/splinter strip and then I can use it along with the TSC, HKC, GRS-16 and GRS-16 PE.

Because everyone fawns over the Mafell rail system, I'm going to purchase the Mafell Aerofix rail to use with the P1 cc and MT 55.

I finally broke down and ordered a MT55cc. Just the bare unit with no clamps, tracks and wotnot. I have plenty Festool rails and, more importantly for me, lots of add-ons fitting the accessory slot (parallel guides, stops etc.) so staying with the rails was the way to go.

After swapping in a plug-it connector I moved on to getting it snugged up for running on the tracks. Shock of horrors no amount of twiddling the two cams did anything to help the saw slide. You really had to shove it even with them slackened right off. Turned out there was some rough stuff on the base casting that was causing it to bind. One small bit of filing later and it was running 99% as well as the ts55. Phew! I have a Bosch rail and it does run very smoothly on it but no accessory slot makes it a non starter for me. Especially given the other Festool saws.

Very nice saw. Should manage to recoup a good chunk of the cost selling on the ts55. I'll be sad to see the trusty old fella go [for a split second].

 

[JimmyFord]

The way I'm going to approach it is to adjust the MT 55 base to fit the Festool rail/splinter strip and then I can use it along with the TSC, HKC, GRS-16 and GRS-16 PE.

Because everyone fawns over the Mafell rail system, I'm going to purchase the Mafell Aerofix rail to use with the P1 cc and MT 55.

I finally broke down and ordered a MT55cc. Just the bare unit with no clamps, tracks and wotnot. I have plenty Festool rails and, more importantly for me, lots of add-ons fitting the accessory slot (parallel guides, stops etc.) so staying with the rails was the way to go.

After swapping in a plug-it connector I moved on to getting it snugged up for running on the tracks. Shock of horrors no amount of twiddling the two cams did anything to help the saw slide. You really had to shove it even with them slackened right off. Turned out there was some rough stuff on the base casting that was causing it to bind. One small bit of filing later and it was running 99% as well as the ts55. Phew! I have a Bosch rail and it does run very smoothly on it but no accessory slot makes it a non starter for me. Especially given the other Festool saws.

Very nice saw. Should manage to recoup a good chunk of the cost selling on the ts55. I'll be sad to see the trusty old fella go [for a split second].

a little wax on the rails and base does wonders

 

[Svar]

Could someone who purchased MT55cc in the US check how the saw idles, especially at low speeds. It has been brought up a while ago (there was a video on YouTube) that the motor speeds up and slows down constantly when not cutting. As if trying to adjust speed and overshoots every time. This does not seem to be the case when under load (cutting). Thanks.

 

[RKA]

Mine is 6 years old, but it sounds normal for these saws.  The behavior is a little different than you describe, but they did update the motors a little so that could explain it.  These numbers are fictitious just to give you an idea of the no load behavior.
Start up 5000 rpms
5 secs 2500 rpms (sounds like someone pulled the power)
6-7 seconds 4000 rpms
And it stays the same after that.

 

[Svar]

Thank you, Raj.
It sounds like in this link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=Oy5Ikzpeqt4&feature=emb_logo

 

[RKA]

So I don't know if it does that , but I can check later tonight and post.  Truthfully I've only ever used the saw at the highest speed. 

My observations above were based on leaving the motor in the highest speed. 

 

[skinee]

Hopefully TSO will come out with an adapter for the rail square to work with Mafell rails.

Taiga Tools (Swedish? makers of the alternative DF500 connectors and a MFT holy jig) have just started doing their own rail squares. Couldn't find them on their main site but they've been showing them on Facebook with a discount code:
https://www.facebook.com/222175511449710/posts/966795033654417/

The FC Rail Square (made in Scotland) fits both Festool compatible rails as well as Bosch / Mafell ones. Either side of the square has different mounts. Not sure they look as easy to connect as the TSO and Taiga ones though:
https://karpenter.co.uk/product/fc-hybrid-rail-square-mark-7/

So there are options for Mafell rails but you'll get financially walloped for importing. I have 2 TSO squares and know just how unpleasant that is :/ But if money were an issue I doubt you'd be buying Mafell

I have just left a review of the Taiga rail square(for mafell/bosch rails) on the mafell users forum,it may be of use to some here:  taiga rail square review
NOTE:
it appears the link is being blocked by this forum(really?).I guess anybody interested will have to search for the site manually and find the relevant post.

 

[peter halle]

Hopefully TSO will come out with an adapter for the rail square to work with Mafell rails.

Taiga Tools (Swedish? makers of the alternative DF500 connectors and a MFT holy jig) have just started doing their own rail squares. Couldn't find them on their main site but they've been showing them on Facebook with a discount code:
https://www.facebook.com/222175511449710/posts/966795033654417/

The FC Rail Square (made in Scotland) fits both Festool compatible rails as well as Bosch / Mafell ones. Either side of the square has different mounts. Not sure they look as easy to connect as the TSO and Taiga ones though:
https://karpenter.co.uk/product/fc-hybrid-rail-square-mark-7/

So there are options for Mafell rails but you'll get financially walloped for importing. I have 2 TSO squares and know just how unpleasant that is :/ But if money were an issue I doubt you'd be buying Mafell

I have just left a review of the Taiga rail square(for mafell/bosch rails) on the mafell users forum,it may be of use to some here:  taiga rail square review
NOTE:
it appears the link is being blocked by this forum(really?).I guess anybody interested will have to search for the site manually and find the relevant post.

Really? Yes the link is blocked.  Why would one manufaturer’s forum allow itself to be a gateway to a competitor is the answer.

 

[Cheese]

So [member=15585]Svar[/member]  I fired up the MT 55 that I purchased in August and after pulling the trigger, it immediately goes to max rpm,then after about 1-2 seconds, it lowers its speed by about 1000 rpm and then remains at that speed.

Having worked on cars & motorcycles for the last almost 60 years... I’m pretty confident with the 1000 rpm conjecture. The MT speed control wheel was at full speed FWIW.