Maple Frame

es07Eric

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Well, here is what I just finished.  As a photographer, you can never have too many of these.  Here is the progression consolidated into 9 images.  I used the following Festool tools:

- TS 75
- CMS-VL (for edge jointing and rabbeting)
- OF 1400 (in the CMS and handheld to route the bead and cove)
- Domino DF 500 using 8x50mm Dominos
- ETS 150/3
- ETS 125
- Granat D150 and D125 starting with P40 through 320
- Pocket Stickfix and assorted Brilliant
- CT 26

Lumber!  (The Oak will be used for a later project)
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Planed on one face
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Planed on second face
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Sanded w/ D150 P80
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Ripped, cut to length and jointed
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Rabbets, mitered and a little Domino planing
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Dominos Cut
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Clamping of the frame
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Studio Time!
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Cheers,
Eric
 

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Once again nice work and great documentation!
 
Don T said:
That turned out very nice.

Thank you Don! 

I made a handful of mistakes and learned a ton on this one!  I guess this is what it's all about!

I just realized that these images don't show the detail of the bead and cove?!  Nor do they show how awesome Festool sanders and Granat paper is; but then again most of us already know!

Thanks again!
 
Great job, Eric.  It's nice to see the final implementation after having seen the pieces. 

 
Sparktrician said:
Great job, Eric.  It's nice to see the final implementation after having seen the pieces. 

Thanks Willy!  It's actually quite larger in person than the images show!  Hopefully it will still be here next time we get together; though I may be a little ashamed of the "fixes" I had to make!

Thanks again Willy!
 
Eric,
It looks great!  Care to share your learning process?  It may save me a misstep (wife wants a custom sized frame)!
Thanks!
Raj
 
RKA said:
Eric,
It looks great!  Care to share your learning process?  It may save me a misstep (wife wants a custom sized frame)!
Thanks!
Raj

The biggest mistake was:

I chose a 8mm Domino based on the "rule" of thirds and I could have easily gone to 10mm as the stock is roughly 32mm.  I wanted to play it safe and use the 8mm instead.  I then debated between 40 and 50mm lengths, I chose 50mm; still not an issue… yet!  I used the outriggers to position the Dominos between the edge and rabbet and chose a suitable "meaty" location… still no issues and felt like I was actually going to come out of this one with zero error!  After the glue up, which I let sit for roughly a 24hrs, I routed the profile along the outer edge and felt the router 's "feel" change as I went over the first corner, thinking I hit a knot, trotted along to the next corner, and hit another "knot"… this happened a total of 8 times!  Do you know what I was hitting yet?  I can assure you that trees don't grow branches in very precise locations…  especially in the pattern I was experiencing.  Well, I hit the very tip of all four Dominos!  I should have gone with 40mm lengths…

The not so big mistake was:

I did not allow ample time for the stock to release it's pent up stresses which caused a bit of twisting.  I didn't think anything of it and honestly didn't realize it would be something I had to worry about.  If it comes out of the jointer and planer straight, it should stay straight right?  Let your boards acclimate and release the stress!  I owe this tip to Sparktrician as he was the one that pointed it out!

The other mistake was (and can't really do much about this yet):

I didn't use a Kapex as I don't have one.  While the miters are acceptable, I know they could be tighter!

Hope this helps and if I recalls anymore, I'll be sure to add!

Cheers,
Eric
 
Wow!  That's a meaty frame. I didn't get that sense from the pics. Thanks for the tips!  I've been meaning to cut open a piece of stock just to see how closely the end of the domino mortise conforms to the domino for situations like this.

So if I'm understanding you correctly it's wise to rip your pieces, let them sit for 2-3 days, then joint, rabbet and miter?

Thanks again!
Raj
 
RKA said:
Wow!  That's a meaty frame. I didn't get that sense from the pics. Thanks for the tips!  I've been meaning to cut open a piece of stock just to see how closely the end of the domino mortise conforms to the domino for situations like this.

So if I'm understanding you correctly it's wise to rip your pieces, let them sit for 2-3 days, then joint, rabbet and miter?

Thanks again!
Raj

Yes, this exactly!  And it is quite a "meaty" frame, if you look at the pic captioned "Dominos Cut", those are 8mm mortises, I could have easily have gone 10mm and still be within the recommended "rule of thirds" for domino sizing!  The rabbets are a 30mm cut in both directions, if that helps scale as well.  Also, in the last image, the "Studio Time" that is a 9' backdrop!

Thanks!
 
Nice looking frame!  How do you like the CMS-VL?  I've been on the fence about getting the pricey Festool router table.  I've heard that the VL is less flexible but I like it cause it cost less.
 
VW mick said:
Nice one Eric

I thought you bought a kapex couple of weeks ago

Mick, I did, but at the time of completion of this frame and the following, the brake gave out on my Hitachi which gave me impetus to grab the Kapex.  I'm sure that that all the maple I cut had a little to do with it ;).

I sure did wish that I had a Kapex for this frame though!

Cheers,
Eric
 
AofD said:
Nice looking frame!  How do you like the CMS-VL?  I've been on the fence about getting the pricey Festool router table.  I've heard that the VL is less flexible but I like it cause it cost less.

The VL is great, and it performed as expected.  For this project there wasn't a single thing that I needed or required above and beyond.  I say this as there are, or have been times where I wished there was a better fence (i.e. Incra LS Positioner).  Oh... And the dust collection is great!!!

When you say flexible do you mean structurally?  Yes, it is stiff as a rock, I went a bit overboard and used two MFT connectors and let me tell you, it's SOLID!

Yes, it is pricey, but it only hurt once and it (aside from a few desired fence improvements) a pleasure to use EVERYTIME!

I hope this helps,

Cheers,
Eric

 
es07Eric said:
I just realized that these images don't show the detail of the bead and cove?! 

That would be cool detail photo...I'd like to see that.

es07Eric said:
I didn't use a Kapex as I don't have one.  While the miters are acceptable, I know they could be

You can use a shooting board to clean up/fit the miters.

Tim
 
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