Master Closet & Other Misc Pics

[Samo]

Hey Bob,

I'm a bit late to this thread.  Work is always getting in the way but I have a one word comment on all your hard work with this project, Superwickedstellarpumped

Cheers, Sam

 

[builderbob]

Hey Bob,

I'm a bit late to this thread.  Work is always getting in the way but I have a one word comment on all your hard work with this project, Superwickedstellarpumped

Cheers, Sam

Thanks a bunch Sam!  I got a chuckle that you remembered that!  Good call!!!

Bob

 

[butzla]

I'm about to start on that vanity I mentioned above so I came back to this thread to look at the color and to borrow design details.  But then I came across the hutch you made.  I  must have missed it the first time around or just skimmed past it.  I love what you did, blending the colors on the crown molding.  I've never seen that before.  Brilliant!

 

[builderbob]

I'm about to start on that vanity I mentioned above so I came back to this thread to look at the color and to borrow design details.  But then I came across the hutch you made.  I  must have missed it the first time around or just skimmed past it.  I love what you did, blending the colors on the crown molding.  I've never seen that before.  Brilliant!

It's funny, that was the designers decision. It's gotten mixed thoughts. I like it because it allows the build to flow in the space but the molding still defines the build!

Can't wait to see pics of your vanity!

 

[Jalvis]

This entire project is really well done.

I also like the coordinating color of crown and truly defines the built-in feel.

 

[sawdustaddict]

Dude, this is sharp.  Nice Work!  ;D [smile]

 

[butzla]

I put the finishing touches on my vanity build.  I got inspiration on the color and handles from BuilderBob so I thought I would post here.  The color didn't turn out quite as black as I would have liked it but I think it works ok with good contrast with the white top.  I started with a can of  Ben. Moore Old Masters "Rich Mahagany" and added black until I was satisfied.  I should have started with black and added red to get that espresso color on Bob's.  
Believe it or not, there is a sink there, it's just the glare.  Corian top/sink with Moen faucet

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[NYC Tiny Shop]

Bob,
This is quality workmanship. Congratulations for completing such a beautiful build!

 

[builderbob]

Thanks guys for the kind words!  Just doin my job!

Jim Kirkpatrick excellent job on your vanity!!!  Do I recall you saying you'll be at Festool Connect?  I hope to meet you if so!

 

[butzla]

I will indeed!  Thanks

 

[penetratar]

One of my favourite projects this .. spectacular job! and I'm sure a real inspiration to many on this site. Well done and thanks for posting.

 

[Marlorup]

Beautiful workmanship, Bob. That definately is an inspiration for us all. Thank you very much for sharing your project for all of us to see. Best regards, Mark.

 

[Bell407]

Absolutely BEAUTIFUL work Bob!  The client and your assume clearly has an eye for style and finish.  One of your posts mentioned selling your Fuji spray system.  How did you go about applying the paint and precat lacquer finish? 

 

[builderbob]

Thanks for the awesome feedback guys!  I hope to be going back to that same ohouse this spring for work in the "Man Room" basement! 

Regarding the finish, the designers on the project have a painter that does their finish work.  Everything on that project was hand applied (not sprayed).

I had high intentions of trying to do my own finish work a few years back and had purchased the Fuji setup but everything I make comes out of a 2 car garage turned shop and I just don't have the physical space to do finish work...I realized my limitations and just do what I know I can do!

 

[curt boyer]

Bob your a good man, and a good man always knows his limitations.

 

[wow]

Mind if I ask what you charged for your portion of the build? If you do, no problem, but if you don't I'd like to know what a job like that went for.

Better yet - if you were to do it again, what would you charge? That way we don't need to know whether you over or under=charged...or came out just right!

 

[NYC Tiny Shop]

Mind if I ask what you charged for your portion of the build? If you do, no problem, but if you don't I'd like to know what a job like that went for.

Better yet - if you were to do it again, what would you charge? That way we don't need to know whether you over or under=charged...or came out just right!

Wow, not to step on your question, but perhaps a better question would be, "Bob, what method do you use for making an estimate?" This is something that, for me, is a skill unto itself.  There are some articles, on the web, that spell out various methods. For most, it's not a skill that comes over-night. Through experience I get better and better.  I don't know if I will ever get it quite right. Fortunately, for my last estimate, I already had enough experience, working with 8/4 red oak, to know what was going to be involved.  For my next project, which is making some cabinetry (not my favorite builds) I have experience from previous builds and will naturally incorporate this.  For me, basically, it's a tally of estimated materials costs with a little extra wood (for bad pieces depending on the wood species and thickness) ,estimated hours for each stage of the build and finishing (including tool set-up), and finally, delivery costs. Hope this helps.

 

[peter halle]

Also, pricing can be geographically influenced.  What Bob's customers feel is reasonable might be totally different than someone else's in a different location.

Peter

 

[NYC Tiny Shop]

Also, pricing can be geographically influenced.  What Bob's customers feel is reasonable might be totally different than someone else's in a different location.

Peter

This is a great point! Yes, we New Yorkers are also used to paying a premium for everything.  Being on an island, everything needs to be imported.
My sister, has done interior design in the Trump Tower, etc. was telling me that I charged too much and that she can get woodworkers in North Carolina to do her builds for less. I responded, "My cost to do business is higher, so go ahead and use them, if you want...but, will they come to your home or site and take measurements for an estimate?"

 

[builderbob]

I'd rather not get into project #'s but I will certainly say that every time I do a project I learn something new about how to better price future projects.  This project was about a 3 1/2 month voyage that included a master bath remodel, the master closet (which included removing separating walls, relocating doors, repairing the floors and ceiling, etc) along with all of the other builds.  When I did my estimating, I managed to not include any fuel/travel charges...this was a 130 mile round trip daily commute.  My truck averaged about 13 mpg when I wasn't hauling my trailer and fuel was about $3.70/gallon at the time.  Do the math on that one...big oops on my part.  It wasn't my first rodeo but just an error that definitely dropped #'s off my bottom line...we all make mistakes, it's how we learn from them!

Also, through the years, I've found what works for me is to only offer specific things.  For example, I don't offer epoxy slides or Blum soft close or ball bearing, I only offer Blum soft close (unless a specific task calls for a different item).  This way, I don't have to offer multiple styles of pricing with too many options, nor do I have to work with inferior products just to satisfy a slightly lower price point.  The greater the options you offer someone, the more confused people get. I figure if I can offer what I feel is the best, nobody will ever walk into my clients house and say something along the lines of "you don't have soft close on your custom x? I do on my Ikea x!".

I hope this mentality helps at least one person!