MFS Corner Fillets

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I've been toying with this idea for a while now, and it's come up again as something that would be useful on a job I'm quoting for at the moment. I have to start this by saying that I don't (yet) own an MFS template. If I did, then I'd probably be looking at making something like these myself, and it would be in 'Projects' rather than 'Wish List'...

Problem:

The MFS system is ideal for routing square or rectangular (or indeed, circular!) cut-outs in timber worktops for sinks, hobs, etc., but whatever size the cut-out, the corner radius would always be the radius of the router bit you're using. That's fine for a hob, but some inset sinks need a larger radius on the corner of the cut-out, as do most undermount sinks.

Solution:

I thought of the idea of using corner 'fillets' that could be fitted into the profiles to produce larger corner radii. Since (at least here in the UK) the most common combination of bit & collar used by kitchen fitters is 1/2" (12.7mm) bit with a 30mm collar, I based the calculations on these dimensions.

With the above combination, the offset required is 8.65mm:

30 - 12.7
      2         =    8.65mm

Therefore, to produce a finished cut of 50mm radius, the radius of the template would need to be 58.65mm (near as damn-it 58.5, I'm not bothered about being 0.15mm out!).

I designed these fillets with a 58.5mm radius, although I would envisage these being available in a variety of sizes, from say 20mm up to around 70mm, in 10mm increments. If the required radius was in between these increments, then the size of collar could be changed to adjust the finished radius.

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These fillets could be secured in a similar way to the circle cutting accessory, i.e. a slot cut in the profile which is expanded with a grub-screw tapped into one half of the corner. Here's a transparent view showing this in (hopefully) more detail:

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Once the MFS was set to the required dimensions for the cut-out, the fillets could simply be pushed into place & secured with a turn of the grub screw:

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Then, with the template secured to the workpiece, you can rout out the opening knowing that you'll get the corner radius you require!!!

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I'd like to see Festool make these, but failing that they could be made at home (though probably from some engineering plastic rather than aluminium).

If anyone does fancy making some of these before I get round to getting an MFS, then please feel free to use my design (though if anyone (including Festool) wants to produce them commercially, I'd apreciate a free set ;D ).

Edit: I forgot to mention - thanks to Brice for the SketchUp models of the MFS templates. They're available from the 3D Warehouse here (MFS 400) and here (MFS700).
 
I like the idea.

I wonder if you could make those with the plastic as you suggested with the mfs.  I don't have an mfs but from what i have read you can cut out a circle with it.  So, If you took a square piece of the plastic and rabbited the ends so it will fit in the mfs.  then set the mfs so that you cut out a circle in the middle of the plasic at the given radius you were looking for and discard the circle. Then you could cut the resulting plastic square into quarters with a thin kerf saw giving you the corner pieces.

JJ
 
Very nice idea Johnny and if you made extras I'd consider buying one off you.

Last week I used the MFS to make an arc with a radius of about 2" and then used that to round the corners on the new theater console and it worked well.

Dan Clermont
 
jrb.......

Very nice concept.  {APPLAUSE}

hmmm, I'll take a metric and an imperial set. ;D
 
This is a great idea. One thing to watch out for: The arc will need to come down to a knife edge for a perfect blend, UNLESS you rely on the part of the profile that will become the tongue. The guide bushing will need to reach the tongue for that to be seamless, and I think it does. Going from memory on that because it's not in front of me.
 
greg mann said:
This is a great idea. One thing to watch out for: The arc will need to come down to a knife edge for a perfect blend, UNLESS you rely on the part of the profile that will become the tongue. The guide bushing will need to reach the tongue for that to be seamless, and I think it does. Going from memory on that because it's not in front of me.

Greg,

Yes, I realised early on that it would be impossible to get the arc to a knife-edge, but the Festool collar (at least, my one for the OF1400) is long enough to go onto the tongue part, so that wouldn't be an issue.

Brice,

What material are you using for yours? Is it for a specific job/application, or are you just doing it to see how it works? Maybe you could make a few sets, and sell them on here? ;) You've got orders from monte & Dan already...
 
I might consider the MFS with that modification. Right now I have little use for it, but that iMod really opens up some ideas to me.

Thanks!

Nickao
 
Jonny, I had a job that I thought rounded edge on a mortise would be the best solution for, the idea didn't work out. Right now I'm using HDPE for a prototype, so far so good.
 
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