MFT being discontinued

[Don Bullock]

Hmmm... I just got my long awaited MFT last week!!!! My wife laughed when I ordered it the day she said I could get one, but she won't laugh if I tell her my new Festool table is no longer made.....

Not a happy Festool owner right now.

Just a thought -- Don't you have 30 days to return it for a refund? :-\

 

[kgregc]

I want to get some more info on the new one and how the older one will do with the "new accessories" and other compatibilities. I would not send mine back to Bob just because of a new model coming out, but it still would have been nice to have had the option to buy now or wait for the new one...

My opinion might change if the MFT3 is better and cheaper...  .. ;D

 

[John Stevens]

it still would have been nice to have had the option to buy now or wait for the new one...

Well, I think that's what Bob Marino is doing for those who haven't bought an MFT yet.  The info wasn't available before, but that's life, right?

I've had this happen when I bought my CT-11 vac and OF1000 router, but if this is the downside to Festool's practice of constantly striving to improve their tools, then I can't get upset.  Sometimes it seems like you lose in this "game" as a Festool consumer, but usually you win.

Besides, only time will tell whether the new MFT is an improvement on the features that we value--in our subjective opinions as individuals--over our "old-style MFTs.  For example, I own an ATF55 and although the TS55 is improved in several respects, it's not improved in ways that make much of a difference to me, so I'm still a very satisfied owner of an ATF55.  As for those who traded up to a TS55, they made the right decisions for themselves, so more power to 'em.  So it'll be for the MFT3.

Regards,

John

 

[davidpawlak]

I just bought my first 800 mft. I was planning on getting another to go with it and now don't know if I'll be able to? I think I'll take it back and wait to get more info on the new tables. BUMMER!

 

[kgregc]

Yeah, John, but when you have just received the MFT1080 that you have wanted for a long time, and suddenly read "We were notified that the MFT 1080 is on backorder and that the MFT 1080 and 800 are no longer being manufactured." you are allowed to whine a bit....

 

[Eli]

As I recall many here were interested in the 'other' new table from across the pond.  Cannot remember the name of it, but many liked how that thing worked...  I love my MFTs. 

That would be the 'Walko' table.

 

[southern_guy]

From the perspective of someone who doesn't yet have an MFT, this is great news. I have been meaning to get one for ages, and so far the fact that I can't really afford one just yet has prevented me from overloading the credit card. I now have a reason to delay the purchase until I can afford one, and I will hopefully get a much better product as a result

 

[Warrior]

It seems a little odd that there will be so much time between the discontinuation of the current MFTs and the release of the MFT3. From a business standpoint for Festool it just doesnt make sense to keep so many customers waiting...but I guess thats the Festool M.O.

 

[jonny round boy]

It seems a little odd that there will be so much time between the discontinuation of the current MFTs and the release of the MFT3.

From everything I've heard so far, it would appear that the tooling for one of the components has suffered a failure. Probably (and I'm just guessing here) the die cast for the corner pieces, since I can't think of any other critical component in the MFT that would have specific tooling.

If the tooling has broken, then that would explain the time lag - they can only produce MFT's from the component stock they have, and in the meantime they have to design, tool, test, and manufacture the new table. That can't be done overnight, though I suspect Festool may already have had the new design worked out.

FWIW, I'm in the same position as Southern_Guy - I'm looking to buy an MFT early next year, so this gives me a reason to hang on...

 

[Frans]

From everything I've heard so far, it would appear that the tooling for one of the components has suffered a failure.

I doubt it. The old MFT used the same profiles as the old Basis system. It was also the same height and you could use the same accessories on it, and even join them together (I use two Basis tables and a MFT predecessor FST660/85 linked together as a workbench).

But the Basis system has been replaced a few years ago by the CMS, which was higher than the Basis and uses different profiles, and thus different accessories. It's only logical that they redesigned the MFT to work with the CMS, as they want their tools to work together as a system. I'm just surprised they took so long.

Frans

 

[Anthony]

I'm just surprised they took so long.

It took so long I forgot it might happen at all - but now it has.

Personally I like low tables. So increasing the height does not work for me as it might for others.

I can't wait to find out more about it, especially any new accessories!

 

[Tinker]

I have read other posts where the poster was not happy with how low the MFT's are.  I for one, would not complain if they were even lower.  I'm a short guy and my shop ceiling is about as low as legally can be called a cellar.

I'm 6'2", a new, taller table would be welcomed in my workspace anyday!! I can't wait!!

Hey Brice, I store all of my clamps other than Festool overhead, clamped beneath the ceiling joists.  You would be banging your head on them.  Even some of my tool storage boxes are stashed between the joists and designed to drop down.  If some of them are "open", you would have to crawl arond on your hands and knees :-\
Tinker

 

[Tinker]

Somebody mentioned adjustable legs.  I heartilly agree.
In my case, I am the only one working in my shop.  My problem is that the floor is not level.  It is more up and down, depending on where you stand.  not really noticeable as you move around.  Very noticeable when trying to line up my two MFT's to use together.  I do take adventage of the one adjustable leg on each table and it seems to work.  If the entire table is designed to be higher with no lowering adjustment, that would be a problem. 

I don't think i would get all bent out of shape with such a problem, it would be fun working out a solution.  Somebody mentioned "bricks and hacksaws".  Hey, my floor is sleepers and plywod over concrete.  I wouldn't use bricks and hacksaw methods.  I would just use my old  Festool D-handled cordless drill and drill out holes in the plywood to drop the new table into same level as the old table.  ;D ;D ;D  As is the way wth Festool, everything is a system.  The unused holes would serve as space for dumping dust & debris when my CT's get full  :

There is always a way 8)
Tinker

 

[Bob Marino]

It seems a little odd that there will be so much time between the discontinuation of the current MFTs and the release of the MFT3.

From everything I've heard so far, it would appear that the tooling for one of the components has suffered a failure. Probably (and I'm just guessing here) the die cast for the corner pieces, since I can't think of any other critical component in the MFT that would have specific tooling.

If the tooling has broken, then that would explain the time lag - they can only produce MFT's from the component stock they have, and in the meantime they have to design, tool, test, and manufacture the new table. That can't be done overnight, though I suspect Festool may already have had the new design worked out.

This is correct. Festool did not just decided not to make the old tables on  a whim.

Bob

 

[TahoeTwoBears]

Are there any MFT 800's left in stock anywhere?

 

[jonny round boy]

Are there any MFT 800's left in stock anywhere?

According to Timmy C, there's a shipment of MFT800 Basics due to the US in January.

 

[Repsac]

This is my first post on this forum, so here goes...

I just picked up my new Kapex today, and am eagerly aviating to open the box when I get home!! ;D However, I didn't by any table for it, so I will most probably want to add that later on.

As I understand, in the Festool table solution for the Kapex, the MFT800 is used as the table under the Kapex. If the MFT800 is not available any more, what will happen to the Kapex table solution then?

BR,
Casper,
Denmark.

 

[Eli]

Just have to wait and see, that's a question only Festool can answer right now. Welcome to the FOG.

 

[Tinker]

This is my first post on this forum, so here goes...

I just picked up my new Kapex today, and am eagerly aviating to open the box when I get home!! ;D However, I didn't by any table for it, so I will most probably want to add that later on.

As I understand, in the Festool table solution for the Kapex, the MFT800 is used as the table under the Kapex. If the MFT800 is not available any more, what will happen to the Kapex table solution then?

BR,
Casper,
Denmark.

Serves you right for gloating over that NAINA. Only kidding.

Hey, friend, we got something here that INAID (Is Not Available In Denmark). SUNSHINE Our daughter's Inlaws are here in US for annual winter visit so they can see some.

Welcome aboard

Tinker

 

[skipjeff]

As a long time Festool fanatic (long before this forum was developed) and when there were only 2 Festool dealers in the state of Maryland, I made a purchase decision to go with what I thought (and still think) was the best system available for woodworkers. Having the luxury of a well equiped woodworking shop I  still spent a ton of green on the green machines. I have never looked back. Festools dedication to improving features on machines is one of my reasons for sliding down that slippery slope. I always look forward to seeing what they come up with. Rest assured, if you buy a tool from Festool, sooner or later they will improve upon the model or introduce a new version. To me, that's innovative thinking. For now I look forward to the new stuff, and if the improvements warrant it I spend my green on the new green. After all that's how I can afford Festool, I make money using the "old" stuff, beaten up a little but with the scars of use. Even the "old Festool" is plenty good enough for me. Time to go make some money, the Kapex is coming!