Mirka Deros 650CV

[pingvinlakrits]

Has this one been released under the radar?

I had the Ceros - which I was quite happy with - but then this puppy arrived on the scene, the Deros:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/mirka-deros-cv-random-orbit-sander

A very small package, very lightweight and a smooth operating, low noise sander. Takes both 5 and 6 inch pads, has dropped the clumsy transformer and cable and now also accepts Festool hoses without modification.

I am extremely pleased with it.

 

[Kev]

I'd like to try one to see exactly how good the are.

I hate their colour scheme [scared]

 

[Brandon]

Seems bulky compared to the Ceros. I love my Ceros, I haven't touched my ets125 since I got it

 

[RC]

And best of all is developed and manufactured by a Finnish company (Mirka) in Finland  [tongue]

On a less tongue in cheek note: Can you really now actually just plug a standard 27mm Festool VAC hose to the Deros without the silly Mirka specific screw-in thin hoses and adapters?

 

[Kev]

And best of all is developed and manufactured by a Finnish company (Mirka) in Finland  [tongue]

On a less tongue in cheek note: Can you really now actually just plug a standard 27mm Festool VAC hose to the Deros without the silly Mirka specific screw-in thin hoses and adapters?

So the Fins are responsible for the "hazard" colour scheme [scared] [big grin]

I may seem crazy on this, but bright yellow means hazard to me and I don't like the idea or reprogramming my mind to think otherwise! Probably why I don't even walk down the Dewalt isle when I'm cruising round tool shops.

 

[RC]

My guess is that the colour as well as the silly bulldog mascot must have been chosen in a sauna somewhere on the west coast under the influence of  many beers in the best Finnish product development and business management tradition. [big grin]

 

[pingvinlakrits]

Seems bulky compared to the Ceros. I love my Ceros, I haven't touched my ets125 since I got it

Well, I had both of them and it was an easy swap even though I loved the Ceros. The Deros is very light and due to the slimmer power cable, no bulky transformer and no-fuss Festool hose attachment I think the Deros is way more manageable. I am surprised you can make such a small machine that works so well. It is very quiet in action as well.

Think Ceros without the transformer.

It fits well into a SYSII with lots of papers and weighs next to nothing. I have to double check to make sure the machine is actually in there before I leave.

 

[overanalyze]

Is this available in 110v yet?

 

[junk731]

Any recall notices on the European sanders like the one I posted for NA.

John

 

[tiralie]

... and no-fuss Festool hose attachment I think the Deros is way more manageable.

...so it doesn't need a vacuum attachment? I don't see how this is way more manageable than an ETS isn't it the same?
Tim

 

[wow]

... and no-fuss Festool hose attachment I think the Deros is way more manageable.

...so it doesn't need a vacuum attachment? I don't see how this is way more manageable than an ETS isn't it the same?
Tim

I believe he meant that it was more manageable than a Ceros...

 

[tiralie]

... and no-fuss Festool hose attachment I think the Deros is way more manageable.

...so it doesn't need a vacuum attachment? I don't see how this is way more manageable than an ETS isn't it the same?
Tim

I believe he meant that it was more manageable than a Ceros...

Ah, ok makes sense now...thanks.
Tim

 

[pingvinlakrits]

Tim, yes, to be more specific: the hose attachment is better on the Deros, no need to rework that vac hose rubber.  The diameter is a little smaller though. In practice dust collection is still great (depending on paper/hole/grit) and simply nothing to worry about.

The Ceros is a great "semi-stationary" sander whereas the Deros is "highly portable" and in some situations it is nice to not have to haul that transformer box.  Considering how light the sander is I was a bit sceptic at first but it has proven to be reliable. I don't mind the Ceros one bit, I just don't need both and the Deros is superb for what I do. (I have more aggressive sanders at hand for site work.)

I haven't heard/read about any recalls on the Ceros over here - (EDITED) but the circuits at fault might as well have found it's way into the machines on our end as well, unless they are specific for the NA models. 

 

[jimbouk]

Seroiusly considering lumping out for one of these for some flooring work. Any other feed back from owners!?

 

[spyle]

The Mirka USA web site indicates these are targeted to be available in the middle of January.  I have one at a customer for evaluation and they are very positive about transitioning their fleet of sanders in this direction, depending on the price; which isn't being released yet.

It is heavier than the CEROS, so I see there is still a place for both sanders.  I believe Mirka intends on supporting both models for the next few years at least.  The CEROS is still lighter and more portable; the DEROS doesn't have the external power adapter.  If I was using a CEROS regularly, I would just drill a slot in the systainer and keep the power supply with the vacuum; velcro the power and vac hoses together, and it is then no different than any other vac setup. 

There is a also a longer power cord option if you wanted to screw the power supply to the side of the workbench or the wall (just as the air sanders are tethered to the wall.)

Speeds and power ratings for CEROS and DEROS are the same, so the principle difference is the larger handle form factor of the DEROS.

 

[andvari]

It doesn't sound like I'll be trading my Ceros in - I particularly like the light weight of it for sanding/polishing vertical surfaces.

 

[Jimmy FineCut]

I also have a mikra deros and really rate it. The only thing I would like to do though is to put a plug it lead converter on.

I'm not sure it's possible as I think the deros lead has an earth in.

Will it be possible? Or has anyone done it?

 

[pingvinlakrits]

Jimmy, I think it is way too much effort for the Deros. I have pig-tailed over twenty odd machines but I haven't even tried this one, it is a bit too difficult I think. It took a while before my Deros cord clicked in to lock securely, I had to file down the connector on the cord a little. It is actually the only machine I haven't plug-it converted.

 

[Jimmy FineCut]

Jimmy, I think it is way too much effort for the Deros. I have pig-tailed over twenty odd machines but I haven't even tried this one, it is a bit too difficult I think. It took a while before my Deros cord clicked in to lock securely, I had to file down the connector on the cord a little. It is actually the only machine I haven't plug-it converted.

Ok, thanks for you input. I might look more into it soon and I will let you know if I do it!

 

[s2dm]

Can anyone point me in the direction of a plug it lead converter? I have mostly festool tools, with a few mirka. I bought the mirka 27mm hose for the deros with integrated power cord, and Id like to come up with some solution that allows me to use the power connector on the hose for all of my tools, rather than switching it out with each tool change.