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Missile Touch-Ups?
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Michael Kellough
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Once you open Photoshop it doesn't much matter which OS it's running under.
I'd guess the ruling clerics prefer would support MicroBrittle's plan for global domination but the Persians are very smart people so I'm guessing Macs for those that can afford them.
It really bugs me that Rush Limbagh's outfit uses Macs, but, it's a free country.
This is way off topic isn't it?
I'd guess the ruling clerics prefer would support MicroBrittle's plan for global domination but the Persians are very smart people so I'm guessing Macs for those that can afford them.
It really bugs me that Rush Limbagh's outfit uses Macs, but, it's a free country.
This is way off topic isn't it?
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Correct, it's Photoshop that is the key. Fabulous programme.
As regards Mac vs PC ........... we'd all have Mac's if we were all daft enough and carefree with money. Interestingly, a PC can be to virtually any spec.......... a Mac however is dished up as you are told to buy it. Mac's are for people without imagination. Not too many of those in here, we're all woodworkers WITH imagination.....no?
Larry.
Sorry for the sweeping statement but you know it's true!
As regards Mac vs PC ........... we'd all have Mac's if we were all daft enough and carefree with money. Interestingly, a PC can be to virtually any spec.......... a Mac however is dished up as you are told to buy it. Mac's are for people without imagination. Not too many of those in here, we're all woodworkers WITH imagination.....no?
Larry.
Sorry for the sweeping statement but you know it's true!
or maybe it was a Microsoft "Smartphone"Michael Kellough
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The Woodentop said:
I've read this so often it must be true
Per Swenson
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Oh wooden,
I've got imagination all right.
I often imagine bashing my 4000 dollar windows brick with a mason's hammer.
There is nothing that you can say, ever, and I don't own a Mac,Yet,
That will convince me that Micro soft is not the true embodiment of satan's
principles here on Earth.
That goes for that flippin zune too.
You think if these were Mac's......
I've got imagination all right.
I often imagine bashing my 4000 dollar windows brick with a mason's hammer.
There is nothing that you can say, ever, and I don't own a Mac,Yet,
That will convince me that Micro soft is not the true embodiment of satan's
principles here on Earth.
That goes for that flippin zune too.
You think if these were Mac's......
Matthew Schenker
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Per,
How do you think that guy's quarterly review went?
Matthew
How do you think that guy's quarterly review went?
Matthew
For those that don't know... this was a promotional video that a foreign director released. It's a shame that it's not "real", because there's some scary, yet amusing office rage being released here.
PC LOAD LETTER?!
WHAT THE F*#@ DOES THAT MEAN?!
PC LOAD LETTER?!
WHAT THE F*#@ DOES THAT MEAN?!
Per Swenson
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B,
You are right of course.
I didn't know until I went looking.
Just now.
So as the professors write in the margins "show work"
Here you go, link from snopes
Per
You are right of course.
I didn't know until I went looking.
Just now.
So as the professors write in the margins "show work"
Here you go, link from snopes
Per
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Having worked on allot of high end films you'd be surprised what can be done with a computer. It truly is amazing when you see the templates followed by the end products.
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Rant on,
To me it's a sad state when OUR media spreads ignorance to the lowest common denominator in an attempt to devalue a real-time complexity, the war on terror. It has become way to easy for many hardworking Americans to take these distortions forced upon us and dismiss these threats that our real because they might be unsettling or are coming from an administration that the media holds unfavorable as witnessed by reading some of the comments after the OP article.
In that article "In an Iranian Image, a Missile Too Many," which was posted July 10, 2008, 9:16 am, the authors wrote,
"Along with major doubts about the image, American intelligence officials had larger questions on exactly how many missiles were fired. One defense official said that ?at least 7, and possibly up to 10″ had taken flight in all, though the intelligence data was still being sorted out. Only one of them was said to be a Shahab 3."
They ended the article with this statement,
"In a sentiment no doubt echoed by news organizations everywhere, an MSNBC editor acknowledged that the four-missile picture was initially welcomed with open
arms. ?As the media editor working the msnbc.com home page yesterday, I was frustrated with the quality of a fuzzy video image we published of the Iranian missile launch,? said Rich Shulman, the network?s associate multimedia editor. ?So I was thrilled when the top image crossed the news wires.?"
How sick is that?
In another article more revealing of the day's occurrence seemingly of having the same facts, the following article "Death To America?" appeared in INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY Editorial posted Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:20 PM PT
"National Security: The jihadist threat once deemed laughable is a frightening possibility. As Iran tests its missiles, Iran's nuke may not be destined for Tel Aviv, but for the American heartland.
Among the missiles Iran said it tested this week was a new version of the Shahab-3, one with a range of 1,250 miles and armed with a one-ton conventional warhead.
Mohammed ElBaradei, the Inspector Clouseau of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), recently said Iran could have a nuclear warhead for the Shahab within six months.
In late May, the IAEA reported that Iran was working on a new missile warhead, known as Project 111, for the Shahab. According to documents in the IAEA's possession, Iran has redesigned the current "Shahab-3 missile re-entry vehicle to accommodate a nuclear warhead."
On Thursday, while these missile tests were under way, William Graham, President Reagan's top science adviser and the chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP), established by unanimous consent of the House and Senate, updated Congress on the direct threat to the U.S. posed by these missile launches.
As he did in 2005, Graham warned the House Armed Services Committee that Iran was developing nuclear weapons and delivery systems targeted at Israel, plus a sophisticated variant that could deal a knockout blow to the U.S. and its high-tech military industrial complex. He reported the mullahs had conducted successful tests to see if the Shahab-3 could be detonated by remote control at high altitude before it striking any ground target.
Such a high-altitude nuclear blast would release an EMP capable of frying everything below from computer and communications infrastructure to power grids and everything that has a chip or a circuit board.
Launched from an innocent-looking freighter in international waters off the U.S. coast, the modified Shahab-3, even your off-the-shelf SCUD, need not have to hit anything. It would only need to get its warhead high enough over the continental U.S. One such blast would be enough to send America technologically back to the 19th century.
Apparently the Iranians are aware of it, judging from articles in the Iranian press. For example, an analysis in the Iranian journal Siasat-e Defai (Farsi for defense policy) in March 2001 weighed the use of nuclear weapons against cities in the traditional manner, as "against Japan in World War II," vs. its use in "information warfare" that includes "electromagnetic pulse . . . for the destruction of integrated circuits."
Another article published in Nashriyeh-e Siasi Nezami (December 1998-January 1999) warned that "if the world's industrial countries fail to devise effective ways to defend themselves against dangerous electronic assaults, then they will disintegrate with a few years."
Peter Vincent Pry, a senior staffer with the EMP Commission, also has testified before a Senate subcommittee on terrorism, technology and homeland security that Iran has successfully test-fired missiles from ships in the Caspian Sea and that Iranian tests of the Shahab-3 missile have involved several high-altitude explosions.
As Pry noted: "The Western press has described these test flights as failures, because the missiles did not complete their ballistic trajectories. Iran has officially described all of the same tests as successful. The flight tests would be successful, if Iran were practicing an EMP attack."
In their reactions to this week's Iranian missile tests, we saw once again the stark differences between the two presidential candidates. Barack Obama said it was the result of our failure to talk with Iran. John McCain said it showed the need for missile defense. The doomsday clock is ticking. We think McCain's right. Carrying a big stick trumps talking softly.
Now why would the NY Times keep this information from their readers?
Rant off
To me it's a sad state when OUR media spreads ignorance to the lowest common denominator in an attempt to devalue a real-time complexity, the war on terror. It has become way to easy for many hardworking Americans to take these distortions forced upon us and dismiss these threats that our real because they might be unsettling or are coming from an administration that the media holds unfavorable as witnessed by reading some of the comments after the OP article.
In that article "In an Iranian Image, a Missile Too Many," which was posted July 10, 2008, 9:16 am, the authors wrote,
"Along with major doubts about the image, American intelligence officials had larger questions on exactly how many missiles were fired. One defense official said that ?at least 7, and possibly up to 10″ had taken flight in all, though the intelligence data was still being sorted out. Only one of them was said to be a Shahab 3."
They ended the article with this statement,
"In a sentiment no doubt echoed by news organizations everywhere, an MSNBC editor acknowledged that the four-missile picture was initially welcomed with open
arms. ?As the media editor working the msnbc.com home page yesterday, I was frustrated with the quality of a fuzzy video image we published of the Iranian missile launch,? said Rich Shulman, the network?s associate multimedia editor. ?So I was thrilled when the top image crossed the news wires.?"
How sick is that?
In another article more revealing of the day's occurrence seemingly of having the same facts, the following article "Death To America?" appeared in INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY Editorial posted Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:20 PM PT
"National Security: The jihadist threat once deemed laughable is a frightening possibility. As Iran tests its missiles, Iran's nuke may not be destined for Tel Aviv, but for the American heartland.
Among the missiles Iran said it tested this week was a new version of the Shahab-3, one with a range of 1,250 miles and armed with a one-ton conventional warhead.
Mohammed ElBaradei, the Inspector Clouseau of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), recently said Iran could have a nuclear warhead for the Shahab within six months.
In late May, the IAEA reported that Iran was working on a new missile warhead, known as Project 111, for the Shahab. According to documents in the IAEA's possession, Iran has redesigned the current "Shahab-3 missile re-entry vehicle to accommodate a nuclear warhead."
On Thursday, while these missile tests were under way, William Graham, President Reagan's top science adviser and the chairman of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP), established by unanimous consent of the House and Senate, updated Congress on the direct threat to the U.S. posed by these missile launches.
As he did in 2005, Graham warned the House Armed Services Committee that Iran was developing nuclear weapons and delivery systems targeted at Israel, plus a sophisticated variant that could deal a knockout blow to the U.S. and its high-tech military industrial complex. He reported the mullahs had conducted successful tests to see if the Shahab-3 could be detonated by remote control at high altitude before it striking any ground target.
Such a high-altitude nuclear blast would release an EMP capable of frying everything below from computer and communications infrastructure to power grids and everything that has a chip or a circuit board.
Launched from an innocent-looking freighter in international waters off the U.S. coast, the modified Shahab-3, even your off-the-shelf SCUD, need not have to hit anything. It would only need to get its warhead high enough over the continental U.S. One such blast would be enough to send America technologically back to the 19th century.
Apparently the Iranians are aware of it, judging from articles in the Iranian press. For example, an analysis in the Iranian journal Siasat-e Defai (Farsi for defense policy) in March 2001 weighed the use of nuclear weapons against cities in the traditional manner, as "against Japan in World War II," vs. its use in "information warfare" that includes "electromagnetic pulse . . . for the destruction of integrated circuits."
Another article published in Nashriyeh-e Siasi Nezami (December 1998-January 1999) warned that "if the world's industrial countries fail to devise effective ways to defend themselves against dangerous electronic assaults, then they will disintegrate with a few years."
Peter Vincent Pry, a senior staffer with the EMP Commission, also has testified before a Senate subcommittee on terrorism, technology and homeland security that Iran has successfully test-fired missiles from ships in the Caspian Sea and that Iranian tests of the Shahab-3 missile have involved several high-altitude explosions.
As Pry noted: "The Western press has described these test flights as failures, because the missiles did not complete their ballistic trajectories. Iran has officially described all of the same tests as successful. The flight tests would be successful, if Iran were practicing an EMP attack."
In their reactions to this week's Iranian missile tests, we saw once again the stark differences between the two presidential candidates. Barack Obama said it was the result of our failure to talk with Iran. John McCain said it showed the need for missile defense. The doomsday clock is ticking. We think McCain's right. Carrying a big stick trumps talking softly.
Now why would the NY Times keep this information from their readers?
Rant off
EMP weapons are nothing new (we dropped a couple of them on Japan, after all). While they need not have nuclear initiators, they can wreak MASSIVE damage and severely hobble a major metropolitan area if they hit the right areas (think city hall, telecommunication peering points, major data centers, etc).
The problem with missile defense systems, is that they can be beaten easily. It's called brute force. The US Navy staged some war games a few years back, and they disqualified one of the admirals for using such tactics. He knew that if you fired so many missiles at once, the AEGIS systems couldn't track them all, so they couldn't shoot them all down. So, he launched thousands of missiles, and the "virtual" result was a sunken fleet of ships.
The Iranians know this, so do the Chinese. They also know those a semi truck and trailer driven in from Mexico or Canada doesn't have to worry about missile defense systems. The days where our "big stick" being big enough to intimidate everyone on the block are over.
You want these types of threats to diminish? You have to talk to people. It's that simple. You don't intimidate people into doing what you want them to. If your wife is doing something that annoys you, do you threaten to hit her? When your neighbor's dog takes a crap on your lawn, do you threaten to kill his dog?
That's basically what we're doing - threatening to kill our neighbor's dog. Nevermind that we NEED that easement that allows us to use our neighbor's well for water right about now.
The problem with missile defense systems, is that they can be beaten easily. It's called brute force. The US Navy staged some war games a few years back, and they disqualified one of the admirals for using such tactics. He knew that if you fired so many missiles at once, the AEGIS systems couldn't track them all, so they couldn't shoot them all down. So, he launched thousands of missiles, and the "virtual" result was a sunken fleet of ships.
The Iranians know this, so do the Chinese. They also know those a semi truck and trailer driven in from Mexico or Canada doesn't have to worry about missile defense systems. The days where our "big stick" being big enough to intimidate everyone on the block are over.
You want these types of threats to diminish? You have to talk to people. It's that simple. You don't intimidate people into doing what you want them to. If your wife is doing something that annoys you, do you threaten to hit her? When your neighbor's dog takes a crap on your lawn, do you threaten to kill his dog?
That's basically what we're doing - threatening to kill our neighbor's dog. Nevermind that we NEED that easement that allows us to use our neighbor's well for water right about now.
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IMHO while Obamah wants to talk softly with Ahmadinejad, we better have one big ass bunch of sticks behind our backs(and we have some really nasty sticks ), because no one is going to talk him out of his opinion of Israel and the USA. He doesn't think like us. His core belief is death to Americans and Israel. Again, IMHO
), because no one is going to talk him out of his opinion of Israel and the USA. He doesn't think like us. His core belief is death to Americans and Israel. Again, IMHOPer Swenson
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Imadingbat is nothing but a figure head
a powerless figure head.
The power in Iran rests solely in the hands of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Imadingbat =kinda Nancy Pelosi
Just thought I would help.
a powerless figure head.
The power in Iran rests solely in the hands of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Imadingbat =kinda Nancy Pelosi
Just thought I would help.
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Oh yeah, a little late but finallymission accomplished
Now lets see, that other little issue. The Iranian oil bourse.
You know, where they want to sell oil in Euros.
Can't have that, all of the American dollars would really be worthless.
If you have some time about 45 minutes, watch the History of Oil.
Per
Now lets see, that other little issue. The Iranian oil bourse.
You know, where they want to sell oil in Euros.
Can't have that, all of the American dollars would really be worthless.
If you have some time about 45 minutes, watch the History of Oil.
Per
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b_m_hart said:
When the person who is threatening you has a habit of supporting state sponsored terrorism, what is there to negotiate when they tell you that they want to kill you?
Your analogy is misguided. It should be, if you find out that your wife hired a hitman to kill you, do you call the police and lock her up? If your neighbor trains his dog to be violent against you and this dog has a history of physical attacks against you, do you have the police shoot the dog and prosecute the neighbor?
My original point by example is that The New York Times and the other major media players listed in the OP article withheld key information about a very aggressive, very bold and very successful missile test from one of the three axis's of evil in a threat against us. Their report focused instead on the silliness of "photoshopping" and diminishing this threat.
"In a sentiment no doubt echoed by news organizations everywhere, an MSNBC editor acknowledged that the four-missile picture was initially welcomed with open
arms. ?As the media editor working the msnbc.com home page yesterday, I was frustrated with the quality of a fuzzy video image we published of the Iranian missile launch,? said Rich Shulman, the network?s associate multimedia editor. ?So I was thrilled when the top image crossed the news wires.?"
One defense official said that ?at least 7, and possibly up to 10″ had taken flight in all, though the intelligence data was still being sorted out. Only one of them was said to be a Shahab 3."
The OP article's authors seem happy that Iran is test firing missiles but are ignorant that those types of missiles might later be used to kill them. By reading the article you would come to the conclusion that these authors and news organizations apparently have no idea that Iran is a danger but is nothing more than a bunch of flunkies in computer enhancement of photography.
The report basically insulted their readers by supplying misinformation and diminished the serious nature of the threat to something more palatable like Photoshopping. Something their readers can understand. No where in the article did they say what a Shahab 3 is or it's planned usage was unlike the article posted the same day at IBD, based on the same series of facts.
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Wars are first fought with propaganda.
Funny that. You know accurate reporting.
Shouldn't both articles have begun in response to
Israli War Games?
Saber rattling is plural folks.
But wait! there is more.
If you think in the next 5 years the US and its allies are not fully invested
with troops and arms in the oil producing Nigerian Delta of Africa.
No matter who is President or how thin the military is spread, You really fail to grasp the fact
that we are no longer (the West) a collection of Democracies, but a global corporate entity.
Before you go and accuse me of being some misguided reactionary, I just find it prudent
for my mental health to avoid the knee jerk lemming reaction to spoon fed propaganda,
by doing a little research.
It helps me sleep at night to know my opinion is my own.
Per
Per
Funny that. You know accurate reporting.
Shouldn't both articles have begun in response to
Israli War Games?
Saber rattling is plural folks.
But wait! there is more.
If you think in the next 5 years the US and its allies are not fully invested
with troops and arms in the oil producing Nigerian Delta of Africa.
No matter who is President or how thin the military is spread, You really fail to grasp the fact
that we are no longer (the West) a collection of Democracies, but a global corporate entity.
Before you go and accuse me of being some misguided reactionary, I just find it prudent
for my mental health to avoid the knee jerk lemming reaction to spoon fed propaganda,
by doing a little research.
It helps me sleep at night to know my opinion is my own.
Per
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A bunch of Pulse Bombs will send them back to
the dark ages where their heads are. :
the dark ages where their heads are. :
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My Father is clearly old and misguided. :
Per
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