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erock said:
Sorry dude....
I'm up to 67. Who's lagging now?? [big grin] Oh...and my systainers ALL have Festool innards! [tongue]
Cheers,
Frank
Mission COMPLETE!!! ALL Festool goals for the shop purchased!
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Sorry dude....
I'm up to 67. Who's lagging now?? [big grin] Oh...and my systainers ALL have Festool innards! [tongue]
Cheers,
Frank
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SittingElf said:
LOL [big grin] [eek] [big grin]
good one Sir!!!!!! GOOD ONE ! I only have 64 systainers. And between you and I, yes, not all of them have this thing called Festool in them. [wink]
I'm glad you could understand my attempt at humor. Keep posting and doing what you're doing Mr. Frank.
Eric
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Eric,
Really get a charge out of your Systainer cabinet videos. Still trying to make up my mind as to whether to build from scratch or go with Sys-AZ for my cabinets. Tough decision and one that will cost me at least $2500 if I go with the Festool option.
I HAVE decided that maximum height will be 1280mm. (I'm a short guy at 5'8"...which is an inch less than I was ten years ago. Where did it go?? [eek]). I just have to figure out the 32mmm deal, and how that figures into 1280.
I'll be removing a whole wall of built-in cabinets to make room for a number of these systainer cabinets, and room for a custom Mitersaw table with under cabinets for additional Systainers. The material is excellent on the existing cabinets, so I'll be using a good portion of them for other purposing. Also trying to decide on a French Cleat system for over-cabinet storage, or build permanent storage. More systainer storage will be under the torsion box assembly table I will build in a couple of months.
If I go with self made systainer cabinets, I'll be referring to your videos more than frequently!
Cheers,
Frank
Eric,
Really get a charge out of your Systainer cabinet videos. Still trying to make up my mind as to whether to build from scratch or go with Sys-AZ for my cabinets. Tough decision and one that will cost me at least $2500 if I go with the Festool option.
I HAVE decided that maximum height will be 1280mm. (I'm a short guy at 5'8"...which is an inch less than I was ten years ago. Where did it go?? [eek]). I just have to figure out the 32mmm deal, and how that figures into 1280.
I'll be removing a whole wall of built-in cabinets to make room for a number of these systainer cabinets, and room for a custom Mitersaw table with under cabinets for additional Systainers. The material is excellent on the existing cabinets, so I'll be using a good portion of them for other purposing. Also trying to decide on a French Cleat system for over-cabinet storage, or build permanent storage. More systainer storage will be under the torsion box assembly table I will build in a couple of months.
If I go with self made systainer cabinets, I'll be referring to your videos more than frequently!
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank,
Man, just build your own. Get the satisfaction of using the tools we hobbyist come to love and use them.
It only takes time to make them. Once you're retired time is something you'll have plenty to play with. Unless you have a golf fetish we don't know about. I've golf plenty in FLA and would understand your fetish for Taylormade [wink].
NOW! Since you've come clean about being a short guy......you could spend time digging in your closet and dust off the platform shoes from the early 70's and use them as work shop shoes to make up for your shortcomings. [tongue] [poke]
Now, stop chasing the UFO's in your helicopters and start cutting the WOOD! LOL !
Eric
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SittingElf said:
Frank,
For your uppers (man that just brought back memories!!) watch these videos on 5S wall cabinets... really good stuff. Since I watched it, i have been doing them this way to incorporate the cleat and look good and are very useful. And of course "simple".
Start with the first one... and then follow the rest of the series.
Cheers. Bryan.
On the subject of workshops, I'm refurbing mine at the moment. Does anyone find that building and organising a workshop is more fun and satisfying in many ways than actually making the stuff once the workshop is complete. It's a bit like building a facility so you can build anything but not being so bothered with the anything once it's complete but knowing you could if you wanted to.
Are we Festool people all just a little bit (or largely) OCD and it's as much about organising to satisfy some psychological need as it is about creating? This is not aimed at anyone at all, just a general question for the community.
I used to design and install kitchens but I invested more thought in designing and building work benches and methods of organising systainers/tools on site and in the workshop than I ever did designing kitchens. I did all that for fun and the kitchens were just a tiresome necessity to earn some wonga.
Once again I find myself asking the perennial question, do I need to get a life?
But it's scary out there.....
Are we Festool people all just a little bit (or largely) OCD and it's as much about organising to satisfy some psychological need as it is about creating? This is not aimed at anyone at all, just a general question for the community.
I used to design and install kitchens but I invested more thought in designing and building work benches and methods of organising systainers/tools on site and in the workshop than I ever did designing kitchens. I did all that for fun and the kitchens were just a tiresome necessity to earn some wonga.
Once again I find myself asking the perennial question, do I need to get a life?
But it's scary out there.....
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andy5405 said:
I think you've described many FOG'rs very accurately, and I bet your assessment fits Frank. I *KNOW* it describes me!!!
I am OCD about things that things fit in, so of course the Systainers 'speak' to me. I only have around 24 of them, but every time I look at them stacked neatly I get a deep sense of satisfaction. I can relate!
And I, too, am redoing my workshop. This time it will be modular and easily rearranged without having to deconstruct /reconstruct anything.
Frank,
For your uppers (man that just brought back memories!!) watch these videos on 5S wall cabinets... really good stuff. Since I watched it, i have been doing them this way to incorporate the cleat and look good and are very useful. And of course "simple".
Start with the first one... and then follow the rest of the series.
Cheers. Bryan.
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That guy reminds me of mister rogers
For your uppers (man that just brought back memories!!) watch these videos on 5S wall cabinets... really good stuff. Since I watched it, i have been doing them this way to incorporate the cleat and look good and are very useful. And of course "simple".
Start with the first one... and then follow the rest of the series.
Cheers. Bryan.
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That guy reminds me of mister rogers
For your uppers (man that just brought back memories!!) watch these videos on 5S wall cabinets... really good stuff. Since I watched it, i have been doing them this way to incorporate the cleat and look good and are very useful. And of course "simple".
Cheers. Bryan.
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It's a very good idea to incorporate the cleat. I wonder if you could make the cleat half the width and still have it be strong enough. I also like these low profile aluminum Z clips. I just got in some samples to test from Monarch but I see that Lee Valley carries them as well.
http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=41869&cat=3,40914,50427&ap=1
Cheers. Bryan.
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It's a very good idea to incorporate the cleat. I wonder if you could make the cleat half the width and still have it be strong enough. I also like these low profile aluminum Z clips. I just got in some samples to test from Monarch but I see that Lee Valley carries them as well.
http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=41869&cat=3,40914,50427&ap=1
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teocaf said:
It's a very good idea to incorporate the cleat. I wonder if you could make the cleat half the width and still have it be strong enough. I also like these low profile aluminum Z clips. I just got in some samples to test from Monarch but I see that Lee Valley carries them as well.
http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=41869&cat=3,40914,50427&ap=1
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So, how much weight can those aluminum rails carry? I'm sure they're not flimsy, but they "look" like it in the product shot.
Frank
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teocaf said:
I have done a hidden cleat before, where the sides of the box cover it, but I found them awkward to try and get on the cleat. Plus, you have to have short piece of cleat on the wall which might not use the best amount of studs to spread the load across. In my current shop design, I plan on having 6 - 8' running cleats across the wall so I can just slide these or move them about as I see fit.
Cheers. Bryan.
True that--I see what you mean. I did forget to mention that what I had in mind for mine was to have the short cleats on the cabinets only and have very long strips of aluminum on the wall that would span across several studs. That's why I contacted the mfg. directly to see if I can get the long strips cheap enough or just rout them out myself out of regular aluminum flat stock. Because like you, I like the idea of being able to move things around as more tools get added, to keep the groupings that I want, etc. Which is what I'm able to do now with my slat wall setup, but I'm trying to eliminate all that bulk going forward.
