Mr Parfitt and Mr Marcel set my mind on a OF2200 but......
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Thanks Ron - I still carry an ID card as it does help to jog my memory.
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Neat trick posting that 3 times in a row.jobsworth said:
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Back to the router...
I do a fair amount of routing and like many, own multiple routers. Other than a large 3.5hp Milwaukee/Jessem remote switched motor that I had in a full router table setup, I did not own a large router, only a few 2-2 1/4hp units along with the 1010 and a few lam trimmers.
So a couple of years ago I picked up a minty Elu 3hp router thinking that I'd have a big one for heavyhand-held use when it was needed.
Still haven't had the need to use it!
Point is - much like the TS75, dont buy the 2200 unless you are swinging big cutters handheld or doing heavy routing on a daily basis.
Imo, it's not like other Festools that you add to your collection as you proceed in your woodworking; it's a purpose-driven tool and unless you need it for those purposes, it's not something most folks need.
90% of folk's heavy routing needs would be met by the 1400. Its a great compliment router to the 1010, not at all too close in specs or size or purpose.
To many folks here buy everything based on the eye candy appeal rather than the need... I'm guilty of that myself of course, but the 2200 is big $$$, so the dent in your budget for an unneeded tool is much larger.
These days, I require a great amount of day to day value out of the tool buying I do.
Jt
I do a fair amount of routing and like many, own multiple routers. Other than a large 3.5hp Milwaukee/Jessem remote switched motor that I had in a full router table setup, I did not own a large router, only a few 2-2 1/4hp units along with the 1010 and a few lam trimmers.
So a couple of years ago I picked up a minty Elu 3hp router thinking that I'd have a big one for heavyhand-held use when it was needed.
Still haven't had the need to use it!
Point is - much like the TS75, dont buy the 2200 unless you are swinging big cutters handheld or doing heavy routing on a daily basis.
Imo, it's not like other Festools that you add to your collection as you proceed in your woodworking; it's a purpose-driven tool and unless you need it for those purposes, it's not something most folks need.
90% of folk's heavy routing needs would be met by the 1400. Its a great compliment router to the 1010, not at all too close in specs or size or purpose.
To many folks here buy everything based on the eye candy appeal rather than the need... I'm guilty of that myself of course, but the 2200 is big $$$, so the dent in your budget for an unneeded tool is much larger.
These days, I require a great amount of day to day value out of the tool buying I do.
Jt
I do have the 700 and the 1010 both are great routers but very different. The 1400 is also very different and with it's 1/2 inch bit capacity does everything I need at this point, I may need a couple of pass on my biggest bits but it does the job. The accessories make these router very versatile and for the price of the 2200 you can get a fully equip 1400.
The other part is that you can plug your 1400 in the vacuum and have it go on when needed. The 2200 need a separate outlet. Weight and size is also a consideration. I now always reach for the lightest tool who can do the job, the CSX has become my favorite drill for that reason.
So if you need regularly to use those big cutters bit the 2200 is the router to buy, if not a fully 1400 makes more sense.
The other part is that you can plug your 1400 in the vacuum and have it go on when needed. The 2200 need a separate outlet. Weight and size is also a consideration. I now always reach for the lightest tool who can do the job, the CSX has become my favorite drill for that reason.
So if you need regularly to use those big cutters bit the 2200 is the router to buy, if not a fully 1400 makes more sense.
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I have 1010, 1400 and a 2200 Festool routers. Design wise, the 2200 is clearly the best. you can see what and where you are routing, the dust collection is superb, the dust collector hose is out of the way, the accessory bases are useful and easy to use, the knobs allow easy control -- what is not to like? It is HEAVY.
But in spite of its heaviness, I chose to use it for creating 42 dados (divider slots) for 3 big drawers I built about 6 months ago. Why? Because i could see where the dados were marked out and be sure that the router was cutting the dados where they needed to be cut. On the downside, I am a 165 pound weakling and my stomach muscles were sore for a week from lifting and positioning the router. I don't think I would have had the strength and endurance to build 6 or 7 drawers without a week of muscle recovery time.
Was I happy that I used the 2200 instead of the 1010 or the 1400 -- YES. The results were just what I wanted; and I doubt I could have gotten similar results with either of the smaller routers even though both would have had plenty of power to cut the dados.
I have mounted and use the 1400 in the CMS router table and it works great. The 1010 is good for cutting shelf pin holes with the LR 32 system.
my 0.02
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But in spite of its heaviness, I chose to use it for creating 42 dados (divider slots) for 3 big drawers I built about 6 months ago. Why? Because i could see where the dados were marked out and be sure that the router was cutting the dados where they needed to be cut. On the downside, I am a 165 pound weakling and my stomach muscles were sore for a week from lifting and positioning the router. I don't think I would have had the strength and endurance to build 6 or 7 drawers without a week of muscle recovery time.
Was I happy that I used the 2200 instead of the 1010 or the 1400 -- YES. The results were just what I wanted; and I doubt I could have gotten similar results with either of the smaller routers even though both would have had plenty of power to cut the dados.
I have mounted and use the 1400 in the CMS router table and it works great. The 1010 is good for cutting shelf pin holes with the LR 32 system.
my 0.02
Joe
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epicxt said:
You can for all but the most demanding routing, assuming you're plugged into a 20 amp outlet.
epicxt said:
I think that we have covered this before (probably several times)...
I do run mine from the CT and I am sure that I checked this out carefully and had it confirmed here on the FOG. It works fine.
I agree with the discussion above that you do need to be a serious router user to justify the 2200 - but it is lovely to handle and the dust collection is the best of any router I have ever owned or used.
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I use all of my Festools with the outlet on my CT and I have no issues whatsoever with that set-up.
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Still trying to decide if the 1400 might be an option for me. It's not a question about "skipping past" the 1400 because I'm just planning to get ONE router and one that will do most/all tasks my current "collection" can't do.
One concern is if I'll go for the CMS in the future, I will want to use bigger bits (63mm+) ,the limit on the 1400. Or is it a way to go around this in CMS-setup since you might raise your bits past the router-base? I guess that will make it tricky to change bits and maybe unsafe too.
My initial future plans for use is: raised panel-doors (big bits) hand-held for starters, doors and frames (power) ,bench-tops for kitchens and table-tops.
If I go for the 2200 I've decided to go for the set with accessory-kit, I've managed to raise the money for that.
The only thing I feel is against the 2200 part from the price, is the weight. But a router with that much power needs to be heavy. [smile]
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One concern is if I'll go for the CMS in the future, I will want to use bigger bits (63mm+) ,the limit on the 1400. Or is it a way to go around this in CMS-setup since you might raise your bits past the router-base? I guess that will make it tricky to change bits and maybe unsafe too.
My initial future plans for use is: raised panel-doors (big bits) hand-held for starters, doors and frames (power) ,bench-tops for kitchens and table-tops.
If I go for the 2200 I've decided to go for the set with accessory-kit, I've managed to raise the money for that.
The only thing I feel is against the 2200 part from the price, is the weight. But a router with that much power needs to be heavy. [smile]
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I've used 3 1/2" (that's almost 90mm!) panel-raising bits in my CMS table with an OF1400. There is a workaround to enable you to do this. Totally safe, although a little tricky to insert the router bit- a tiny disadvantage.
I recently sold my OF1400 as I had a good opportunity to do so at a fair price, but quickly decided to buy another one. I have all the bases for it, it is compatible with the LR32, and it's the perfect do-it-all router if you only want one.
I recently sold my OF1400 as I had a good opportunity to do so at a fair price, but quickly decided to buy another one. I have all the bases for it, it is compatible with the LR32, and it's the perfect do-it-all router if you only want one.
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festoolviking said:
I actually think the weight is a benefit, once you start that machine and start your routing the handles and controls (start, lock and unlock) are so well positioned that the weight works in your favour.
Lifting it out and putting it back in the box however is a different matter.
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Thanks for all your input on the subject. I finally made up my mind and placed an order for the 2200 with the accessory kit today. So now it's gonna be a loooong wait until I can pick it up in about a week. [smile] [smile]
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