NEC 2010

Deansocial said:
to be honest i would look at the weight differance but only because it is for boarding and my shoulders are buggered
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Here is the weight difference

10.8V
1.7 kg with battery
1.9 kg Battery and Magazine

18V
1,9 kg With battery
2,1 kg Battery and Magazine

So not much different!
 
I bet he isthere was a "toolfest" on here but based in the US so not him. Warren is pretty good but as im local sometimes they actually deliver some stuff in their own toolfest van vwt5. Last thing i bought was an empty mungo systainer 4 £30 bargain and it arrived next day and well packaged so cant complain. Only trouble i did have with them was getting messed around with a compressor i needed i looked at the tiny 1010 senco he sells but wanted something bigger to run a t-nailer , spoke to him on the phone and he said he had it in stock now drove 45 minutes to get it only to get told "oh it wont run a tnailer you need the next size up" but i asked that on the phone and he said yes it was big enough. so a bit pissed off but as you say hes a bit easy going slow talking so i just think thats the way he is. He does import some good tools that no one else seems to.

Heres the compressor i might go for anyway sorry to change subject http://www.screwfix.com/prods/98404/Power-Tools/Compressors/Stanley-Bostitch-SCR008-10Ltr-Roll-Cage-Compressor-110V#

i dont suppose I will be needing it for a few months anyway  [sad] [sad]
 
joiner1970 said:
I bet he isthere was a "toolfest" on here but based in the US so not him. Warren is pretty good but as im local sometimes they actually deliver some stuff in their own toolfest van vwt5. Last thing i bought was an empty mungo systainer 4 £30 bargain and it arrived next day and well packaged so cant complain. Only trouble i did have with them was getting messed around with a compressor i needed i looked at the tiny 1010 senco he sells but wanted something bigger to run a t-nailer , spoke to him on the phone and he said he had it in stock now drove 45 minutes to get it only to get told "oh it wont run a tnailer you need the next size up" but i asked that on the phone and he said yes it was big enough. so a bit pissed off but as you say hes a bit easy going slow talking so i just think thats the way he is. He does import some good tools that no one else seems to.

Heres the compressor i might go for anyway sorry to change subject http://www.screwfix.com/prods/98404/Power-Tools/Compressors/Stanley-Bostitch-SCR008-10Ltr-Roll-Cage-Compressor-110V#

i dont suppose I will be needing it for a few months anyway  [sad] [sad]
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Im well bad for changing subjects! Cant help it! I go on one!

Why dont you go for a small schneider compressor

JMB
 
A sander or hammer on a compressor will need 300+ L/Min. So if you intend to use such tools you should look for a bigger compressor.
 
MarkusS said:
A sander or hammer on a compressor will need 300+ L/Min. So if you intend to use such tools you should look for a bigger compressor.
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I think he said a nail gun.  I don't think he will be using a hammer on a compressor.  I Dont know about a sander but dont think he has a sander in mind!
In the UK compressors arn't used that much!  Workshops I have worked normally only use compressors for nail guns and an air blow gun. We defiantly don't use compressors on site much. So I think a small compressor is all he is looking for to run a nail gun.

JMB
 
I use a compressor all the time on site.  I have 2 bostich finish gun's, one a 15 gauge & the other an 18 gauge.  I just don't like the thin nails on the cordless nailers, or are they now doing them with 15 gauge nails ?  I too am looking for the smallest compressor i can get but will still run the 15 gauge.  Sorry for jumping on the hijack JMB.

Carry on  [smile]
 
That one at screwfix is a new model that no one else is selling yet very strange. I went to the D&M tool show saturday to cheer myself up and noticed the Bostitch guys had one they were using to demo nailers outside but it was in Stanley yellow not the orange and it wasnt for sale. When i quizzed the guy he said yeah its replacing the roll cage one they sell now it is a newer model. I also notice SIP sell the same compressor i suppose they are all made by some company in Italy.

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Woodguy

I use a Sealy 25 litre compressor on jobs all the time with Prebena 16 or 18 gauge nailers. The effort of lifting it on to the job far outweighs the grief a jamming 2nd fix cordless guns.

It is relatively light and will produce 8 bar of pressure enough to fire 38mm stainless steel 16 gauge into oak without any probs at all.

Dont know if that would be sufficient for your needs.

Guy
 
woodguy7 said:
I use a compressor all the time on site.  I have 2 bostich finish gun's, one a 15 gauge & the other an 18 gauge.  I just don't like the thin nails on the cordless nailers, or are they now doing them with 15 gauge nails ?  I too am looking for the smallest compressor i can get but will still run the 15 gauge.  Sorry for jumping on the hijack JMB.

Carry on  [smile]
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LOL!  

Yeah you can get a cordless 15gauge nail gun
http://www.nailfastonline.co.uk/more/on/details/00107

I have a compressor but I use if for sand blasting and spray painting only at the moment!
http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=7591&productdescription=&productcode=&category=11&catgroup=112&catmicrogroup=1022&analysiscode=&requiredresults=16

Well woodguy there are only a few people like you then who use compressors on site. Is it because you have joinery inside you which rubs of onto carpentry work abit  [poke]  Oh and Guy Ashley does it aswell! Its you workshop lads who like taking compressors onto site!  Dont think pure Carpenters use compressors.

JMB

 
I kinda thought the higher speed was for metal! 
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You thought right. The higher speed is necessary for metal stud - the fact that the torque is lower isn't very important, as any 4000 RPM drywall screwer will have torque to spare for wooden studs.
The higher speed ( and finer thread !! ) for metalstud are needed to puncture the stud before it can be dimpled, creating an art of "built in spring washer" in the stud, leading to erratic depth setting.
You definitely need a high speed screwer for metalstud - for wooden studs both types work, although the lower speed ones are preferred. In wood you need the coarse thread (holds better) and when screwed in at high speed, cheap drywall may get smashed as the head sinks at a very high speed - higher then with the finer thread screws. You may want to use the finer thread screws to prevent this, but you sacrifice a bit in holding power.
Ideally, you need both, but the high speed one is just a tad more universal.

Regards,

Job
 
i already have a 24 litre bostitch compressor but its 240v and not the easiest thing to move around so i only use it on private houses never on my sub-contracting side. thats my reason for getting a smaller 110v one.

jmb, i had seen that senco cordless one but senco dont know yet when its being rolled out in the UK
 
joiner1970 said:
That one at screwfix is a new model that no one else is selling yet very strange. I went to the D&M tool show saturday to cheer myself up and noticed the Bostitch guys had one they were using to demo nailers outside but it was in Stanley yellow not the orange and it wasnt for sale. When i quizzed the guy he said yeah its replacing the roll cage one they sell now it is a newer model. I also notice SIP sell the same compressor i suppose they are all made by some company in Italy.

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Just had a look at that one from Screwfix - does anyone have any idea on the overall dimensions of it? Never did get round to building my compressor-systainer...
 
I used to have a paslode finish nailer but talk about useless.  Slightest hint of cold or damp & the blasted thing wouldn't work.  No problem with the air powered ones, they are bullet proof.  Well when i say bullet proof, i haven't actually tested it.  Might get the Browning 12 gauge out & try it  ;)

Woodguy.
 
hi Jonny, that one is too big for a systainer im afraid you need the senco 1010 and you have to cut a few bits off it for it to fit but I have seen one in a systainer. you can only run small nailers off it though.
 
woodguy7 said:
I used to have a paslode finish nailer but talk about useless.  Slightest hint of cold or damp & the blasted thing wouldn't work.  No problem with the air powered ones, they are bullet proof.  Well when i say bullet proof, i haven't actually tested it.  Might get the Browning 12 gauge out & try it  ;)

Woodguy.
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i use the dewalt ones and they are great just a bit big the guy i sub off has two.
 
i use a 35 gallon bostich compressor i bought with a 1st fix bostitch gun which cost 300 for the pair from dyna tools. Then bought a 16g 18g and 18g stapler for £130 all bostich
 
Well I used my Sword yesterday for a full day! First time!  It came in really handy it was a small roof extension so only 10rafters and then diminishing jack rafters into the adjacent roof and ladder rack on the gable end and valley.  He said can we get the old roof stripped together and then I fit the new roof all by 3 oclock! So he could felt,lath and tile the roof before it gets dark which is like 5 o'clock!

This included Fascia and gable end and bolting rafters to old roof and bolting braces! Aswell as needed to work out getting the roof at the right height!  As he had the wall plate set to high!

I was still bolting up as he was felting over the top of me!

Well we finished it at 5.10 with tools packed! It was dark I was worried I had forgotten a tool! I hope I haven't any way!

Was a rush I tell ya and I didnt get to do the roof like I would of liked I wouldn't say bodged but not to my standers.

Well I could not of done it with out the Sword!  It made light work for cutting the rafters and jacks!

Oh I had a play with the Protool auto Feed gun!   I could tell a difference straight away with this 18V compared to the 12V  I found the 12v was easier to scew screws into wood as it has a higher RPM it screws them in quickly so your not pushing the Gun for very long on each screw so its less tiring when using above your head plus its lighter which helps!  

I found with my new 18V Protool Auto Feed Gun it screws the screws in slower so you have to push the drill slightly longer!
Its hardly anything but when your doing a lot it adds up a bit on your arms!!
I still prefer the 18V as I said its only slightly longer but I think being able to use my 18V festool batteries on the Protool gun and use my Protool 18V batteries on my festools is a big Bonus!

Also I noticed with the 12v when I tried screwing a piece of chipboard to 4x2 the screws just sat flush even though I had the settings on the drill at maximum depth.
With the 18V it easily sunk the screws in and it was only set at half the depth.  I think this would be better for fixing plaster boards with longer screws into oak.  I think the 18v for me is the better option as I find it will come in for doing flooring for easy screwing ply or chipboard the floor joists or studding.

Protool Auto Feed Gun

You can see in the Video! Its fully automatic in forward but not in reverse. So no need to pull the trigger this is easier for when you just cant quite reach but also saves a lot of battery power because your only running the drill when needed.

JMB
 
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