Need item shipped to U.S.

Agent 73 said:

Sorry, I assumed you were web savvy. FWW I buy regularly from European and U.K. retailers and have learned all the tricks (I commonly communicate in the retailer's language using google translate). Works well enough to get my point across.

Hmm, since you weren't aware of the translate option on Amazon, I'm going to blow your mind with this one:

Assuming use of Firefox (with a google translate add-on) or Chrome (may work with others search engines too) you can translate any page by right clicking and selecting "Translate Page" or the like. I make regular use of this option, as necessary. The world is your oyster.   
 
TinyShop said:
Agent 73 said:

Sorry, I assumed you were web savvy. FWW I buy regularly from European and U.K. retailers and have learned all the tricks (I commonly communicate in the retailer's language using google translate). Works well enough to get my point across.

Hmm, since you weren't aware of the translate option on Amazon, I'm going to blow your mind with this one:

Assuming use of Firefox (with a google translate add-on) or Chrome (may work with others search engines too) you can translate any page by right clicking and selecting "Translate Page" or the like. I make regular use of this option, as necessary. The world is your oyster. 

Thanks.  I downloaded chrome and use the translate feature for Conax.DE.  It's asking for banking info it IBAN and BIC numbers.  I have no idea what those are.
 
Agent 73 said:
Thanks.  I downloaded chrome and use the translate feature for Conax.DE.  It's asking for banking info it IBAN and BIC numbers.  I have no idea what those are.

IBAN and BIC are two numbers used for paying by bank transfer in Europe. If you have a bank account with a European bank, you have those 2 numbers.

I looked at that site and they state they also accept PayPal and Visa and AmazonPay, maybe you can use one of those?
 
Man! What a bunch of helpful brothers.....solved OP search, enriched the internet experience and then some...gotta love it.
 
Vondawg said:
Man! What a bunch of helpful brothers.....solved OP search, enriched the internet experience and then some...gotta love it.

I agree and appreciate the help.
 
Alex said:
Agent 73 said:
Thanks.  I downloaded chrome and use the translate feature for Conax.DE.  It's asking for banking info it IBAN and BIC numbers.  I have no idea what those are.

IBAN and BIC are two numbers used for paying by bank transfer in Europe. If you have a bank account with a European bank, you have those 2 numbers.

I looked at that site and they state they also accept PayPal and Visa and AmazonPay, maybe you can use one of those?

I didn't notice that.  I'll give that a try.  Thanks.
 
Crazyraceguy said:
It's not about the site working, I have gotten things from there too.  More likely that it's just an item that Festool doesn't want shipped to the US. Oddly there are quite a few of them.

How?  When I click on the Amazon Germany link I get a warning in red letters that says 'This item cannot be shipped to your selected delivery location. Please choose a different delivery location.'
 
Crazyraceguy said:
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It's not about the site working, I have gotten things from there too.  More likely that it's just an item that Festool doesn't want shipped to the US. Oddly there are quite a few of them.

Depends upon the seller.
 
I've bought from Germany and England, shipping depends on the seller not Amazon itself.
 
P2P said:
Crazyraceguy said:
It's not about the site working, I have gotten things from there too.  More likely that it's just an item that Festool doesn't want shipped to the US. Oddly there are quite a few of them.

How?  When I click on the Amazon Germany link I get a warning in red letters that says 'This item cannot be shipped to your selected delivery location. Please choose a different delivery location.'

Exactly, but other items can be. It's the combination of item and location.
I have tried to buy several Festool items from there and get the same message, but if you click on an item that is available here, that doesn't pop up. I did however buy a Bosch router bit set because they were available with 8mm shanks.
 
Right, amazon.de, etc doesn't care.  In fact amazon is the part making it all easy and seamless. It wasn't that long ago that sites like amazon wouldn't allow any international buying, but now clearly have put everything in place to make it work (legal/customs/etc requirements). But soon as a seller knows you are in the US, if it's something Festool, you will get the message.  When you get the message varies. Sometimes it will be there from the start, other times when you add to cart, I've had stuff from vendors that got thru the buying process just to come back and say "no". 

I assume the seller has to set something on their end, so if they don't configure their listing right, it will vary how the rejection happens.  If they forgot to set the settings to stop US folks from buying, and you have the new person on their end who doesn't know, I can see some things slipping out.

 
I'm still puzzled by it though. Other than incompatible electronic items (motors and cord ends) why are so many things not available? It just doesn't make sense.
Sure, maybe it simplifies things for the American retailers, by having to stock fewer items. But if you are willing to deal with a European seller, why should they be restricted?
It's not like it would be against some law. If I knew someone over there, I could order and pay for it and have it shipped to them. Then they could send it on to me in the US. No one would ever know or care for that matter. It's not like it's contraband or something.
 
If Festool (Germany), allows retailers in EU to sell to the USA, it means Festool USA is competing against Festool.  Festool USA is its own company (LLC), and has to justify itself, and protect its dealers.  If everyone bought stuff from out of the USA, then it just undercuts Festool USA's existence.

It sucks, but it's common thing anytime a company sets up a US company verses just having a distributor.  You could compare to Mafell, there is no such thing as Mafell USA.  They just have a single distributor in the US.  Mafell doesn't do anything to stop people from buying their stuff out of Europe (not that I have noticed anyway).  But Timberwolf Tools won't honor a warranty or support you if you bypass them.  For Mafell, a sale is a sale in their case.  But once you have a full blown operation set up in a country, you don't want to go undercutting that.

Obviously someone could point out that if someone buys something Festool USA sells, but buys it from a different country, that person is hurting themselves by loosing warranty and support, thus will keep things in check.  I doubt they see it that way.  If Festool opened things up where items not sold by Festool USA were valid for people to buy from out of country, I think that would bring things in better balance.  Someone wants a tool that Festool USA has decided won't sell enough of to justify carrying it, let folks buy it. Someone wants a tool that isn't offered such as a 230V tool, let folks buy it.  They could potentially set up a separate limited warranty program, where you might even be able to get service of it, or parts from Festool USA, but there may be an additional cost, or time due to parts lead time, or even the tool might have to go back to Europe worst case.

I think most people would be generally understanding of such setups as long as there is no real reason to go those routes (everything is offered in your country). It's Festool not offering all the tools, or making random moves (removal of metric) and so forth that frustrates people and causes them to look to buying them from the EU/UK.  I think Festool UK is its own PLC too, but there, I would guess people buy stuff cross channel and no one blinks because that is just a mass flow of goods and just a normal flow of things that trying to stop it just wouldn't work.
 
Before they outgrew their distributors, Nikon, Subaru, Saab, and Mercedes were all distributed by a separate company.  Eventually, the manufacturer will outgrow their distributors and at that time they typically buy the distributor and take the distribution in-house.

There is no way for us to know what that magic dollar volume is for this transition, but you can count on the fact that the management at Festool does know that magic number. 

Maybe it will never come; maybe it will happen next week.
 
it all ready happened, it's Festool USA.    Subaru was brought in by Malcolm Bricklin.  Mercedes by.... Packard.  Now they have Subaru of America (a Subaru Subsidiary). Mercedes has Mercedes Benz USA.

For a bunch of companies, they now just use companies like Fedex and UPS for that function, so people tend not to notice.

 
It may have been mentioned, but there is also the issue of import duties. If — say Festool — were to stock a lot of inventory and parts in the US, they would have to pay duties on that, or go through the hassle of warehousing in a bonded facility (way too complicated and costly, I think) where you only pay those duties the moment the article leaves the facility.

For Festool the cost of stocking a considerable supply of their products in North America could cost more than a couple of years’ profit. Who knows?

OTH I use a US-based forwarder (MyUS) to purchase stuff that sellers won’t ship outside of the CUSA. Maybe there are similar options in Europe for customers in the US?
 
Unknown.  One thing to remember is that most folks in the US will go their whole lives never having bought or sold something cross an international line.  It's just something we know nothing about, and thinking about it tends to bring fear of "what if". That's where Amazon and similar now making those parts transparent (behind the scenes) has really changed things, now buying stuff from other countries is a thing that someone might do. People get nervous crossing between the US and Canada having bought stuff wondering if they have committed a crime.

People in other countries, it's much more normal, thus something I doubt many folks even think much of. But you will see retailers in other countries also have issue soon as you are in the US (beyond just Festool), they will say they ship everywhere, and to the US, show things in USD, but if you try to buy, they won't let it happen.  I think many retailers in the EU get nervous about shipping stuff to the US as it is a mystery to them too.
 
DeformedTree said:
it all ready happened, it's Festool USA.    Subaru was brought in by Malcolm Bricklin.  Mercedes by.... Packard.  Now they have Subaru of America (a Subaru Subsidiary). Mercedes has Mercedes Benz USA.
to get us off topic:
Bricklins-what were they made from-was that a colored plastic?  I remember them from mid 1970's.
I had to look it up, but saw that Mercedes and Packard distributorship was set in in 1957-about the same time Packard joined with Studebaker.   
I had an interview with a company 40 years ago with a company called Mueller Brass.  (I did not take the job).  However, I remember in the interview being told that in the 1890's the US rights for the distributorship of Benz was purchased by Mueller Brass.  The head of Mueller Brass was smoking a stogie and pouring ether down the carburetor of a running vehicle.  After that episode his widow said the company was out of the car business.  So it could have been the Mueller Benz, but that went up in a flash.  Also, Steinway Piano had the rights to build Daimler Motors and built the first one in 1891.  I could not find anything about the Mueller connection on the internet, but did find a poster on Pinterest of a 1897 Mueller Benz auto, so think it existed.  Sorry, but Deformed Tree's comment sent my mind off topic. 
 
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