New and improved Guide Rail Support Unit, RSU2 (lots of pictures)

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I built this guide rail support unit for my worktable over a year ago. It proved to be very sturdy, with zero play, and excellent repeatability when the guide rail is raised, lowered or reinstalled.  This is my second prototype, hence RSU2. The set consists of two support blocks with cam clamps, two steel raiser rods, front horizontal support, and a rear hinge.
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1) This design addresses some known issues with stock supports by Festool. Namely, a) lack of repeatability and the need to re-square the setup often, b) excessive play where the guide rail engages frond support bracket. These issues caused many to use tall bench dogs for rail positioning instead, which has its drawbacks, especially when cutting narrow or small stock.
In my design the rail always registers perfectly due to tight fitting plastic (UHMW polyethylene) splines and precise fit of the raiser rods.
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2) The raiser rods support blocks attach to the t-slot in your bench or cutting table. The spline ensures that the block is perfectly aligned and the rod is always perpendicular to the table surface. The slot milled in to the block is 8.6 mm wide. It matches Festool MFT3 t-slots. For use with 8020 type extrusions the spline has to be modified to fit 8.3 mm t-slot. The spline can also be removed completely to attach the block to any regular bench or flat surface. I intentionally made it this way (with removable spline) for easy modification.
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3) The rods lock securely by cam clamps in any position.
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4) The rods are 416A stainless steel, 20.0 mm in diameter, drilled and tapped to M8 on one end. FYI: 416A SS is softer and less corrosion resistant than other SSs. It is also magnetic.
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5) The support bar and hinge are made of 6061 aluminum. The hinge pivots on polished steel pins with nylon washers. Just like in all other components plastic splines that engage the guide rail are placed in slots and screwed to eliminate any lateral movement during use or reinstallation (original Festool hinge fastener allows some lateral play there).
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6) When the raiser rod is locked and the rail is lifted or lowered the hinge/rod assembly may inadvertently experience torque. To prevent the central screw from loosening I installed an anti-rotation pin next to the screw. This is just a precaution. I used the setup without the pin for over a year and the screw never got undone.
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7) Using round raisers has added benefits. With the optional shaft collar the support block does not have to be clamped. If you lower the cam lever slightly to make the rod just snug the rail can simply swing out of the way left or right after the cut.
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In addition, the guide rail can be positioned at any angle to the table. It is useful for miter cuts on long stock. Simply loosen the bolts and slide support block(s) in either direction.
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8 ) Removing the rail is easy. Release the cam clamp and pull out the rail with the hinge still attached to it. When you reinstall, it will be at the exact same position. No need to re-square.
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I have some improvements in mind, so perhaps I’ll come up with RSU3 in the future.
 

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Awesome work, thanks for sharing!! 

I'll be building a few systainer storage / workbenches with some 8020 this year and will incorporate the MFT style top on them.  Once I do, I'll have a better feel for whether I plan to cut on them or if I'll stick with the MFT table.  If I do, I'll look you up and see if you have more RSU available.
 
Very nice build.

Suggestion:
Possibly prolonging the cam clamp screw (and a sleeve) on the back side so the lever is not hidden below the rail could make accessing it easier with the rail down and in a low position.

Other idea that comes to mind:
What about replacing the clamps with linear bearings, spring load the rods to be pushed up and pull them down with bowden cables connected to a central lever (which could be mounted at the front of the table)? That should make height adjustment a breeze (using the lever) and the bowden cables would only have to be adjusted once for front and back supports to always be at the same height.

Rail removal would be a bit more difficult then (as of spring and cables which would need to be detached, so you can't simply pull it with the rod), but a cam clamp instead of the allen screw at the back support would make for a quick release of the rail, while a smartly placed chamfer on the ends of the block that goes into the bottom slot of the rail (plus forming the plastic parts in a way so the block can't rotate rotate out of alignment or come to close to the support so one would need to manually lift it to get it into the slot) could make reattachment a simple and fast procedure as long as the cam clamp on the bottom is in released state.
 
Beautiful work.  This idea will have many uses and I really like the way it can be used anywhere on the table.
 
Dick Mahany said:
Beautiful work.  This idea will have many uses and I really like the way it can be used anywhere on the table.
I actually have an extra pair of support blocks on the short sides of the bench and just move the raisers around for long cuts (I do have to switch to a longer rail though).
 
Svar said:
Dick Mahany said:
Beautiful work.  This idea will have many uses and I really like the way it can be used anywhere on the table.
I actually have an extra pair of support blocks on the short sides of the bench and just move the raisers around for long cuts (I do have to switch to a longer rail though).

That's exactly what I was thinking about.  I did move my MFT rail guides to the short sides when I replicated an auxilliary MFT top.  It wasn't difficult, but it took more time to swap the brackets between sides, and re-square,  than I would have liked.  With two sets, your setup would allow a semi-permanent placement on the table and the ability to do a quick swap for the different rail lengths.
 
Nice! LOVE thise idea to have hardware that would give MFT/3 functionality to benches that use 80/20! Anything that incorporates 80/20 Im all for! That stuff if just too cool!
 
ben_r_ said:
Nice! LOVE thise idea to have hardware that would give MFT/3 functionality to benches that use 80/20! Anything that incorporates 80/20 Im all for! That stuff if just too cool!
I got introduced to 8020 in the late 90-s for some robotic stuff. Yes, it is cool. I also use Bosch-Rexroth framing, which is equivalent and in some ways better.
 
I would love to have a set of those! I have a custom built MFT style workbench and have rails along the our edge but they are the standard 1/4" style rail you get from Woodpecker, etc. I think what you have would work very well except the high density guides would need to be smaller.

Very nice work!!

Jack
 
Are you making these available for sale, if so I would be very interested in purchasing a set
 
Man. Good stuff. Festool should definitely job on that design because the current design is poor.
 
Viktor,

The RSU2 worked out great. No issues adapting to the 8020 rails on my custom table.

Shaved the splines with the block plane

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installed the mounts and squared everything

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Shaved the spline for the front mount to fit the Festool track

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Right now everything is about .002" square per foot for my cuts. Good for now.
 
Nice. So when will more be available? Interested to see the design changes in the next round.
 
ben_r_ said:
Nice. So when will more be available? Interested to see the design changes in the next round.
I don't know. However I had many requests, so it's tempting to continue.
 
Svar said:
ben_r_ said:
Nice. So when will more be available? Interested to see the design changes in the next round.
I don't know. However I had many requests, so it's tempting to continue.
Are the parts all milled? If so did you do the milling yourself? And if so what mill do you have?
 
[member=15585]Svar[/member] I would be interested in these as well....

Thanks,
Trevin
 
Put me on the list for one, as well.  If you ever decide to make more...
 
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