New Bosch worksite table saw

mastercabman said:
Bosch has a new kid on the block.
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-GTS1031-10-Inch-Portable-Jobsite/dp/B004O7FX20/ref=sr_1_1?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1300643992&sr=1-1
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Ya I saw that. I have it's brother the 4100 it's a good saw.
I still don't know how they (rationalize) get (maximum) 4 hp out of it plugged into a 110-120v wall plug though...must be some kind of "Bosch motor magic".
I know it has been stated here previously, I do like the way Festool rates it's motors. Watts are preferable to goofy hp ratings.
Tim
 
I love how the Fence is stored under the table!  Keeping the Top flush good for stroring in my van actually. Thats what annoys me with mine I have to remove mine and put it some where out the way but dare I say it and YES it is true I have a cheap Karcher thingy!  But it has some power I tell ya and is so light I pull it along with the lead lol!  So brilliant for site just to throw it down rib some 4x2 down with ease!   The big Dewalts with legs which are heavy struggle to cut 4x2  mine cuts it like your not even feeding wood through it!

JMB
 
Looks a lot like the Dewalt or Hitachi I saw at Lowes recently. Don't remember exactly which one. Hopefully this one is safer than the last.
 
i like that saw. nice feature with the fence. can you store the guard and riving knife under there.
does any one have one yet to comment on it
 
The larger Bosch, unlike the larger Dewalt, allows a simple router table insert to be placed in-between the extension and main table. 

Here's some pics of my Bosch 4100 setup:
http://www.juliantracy.com/Bosch%20Tablesaw/

I'd bet the new small Bosch saw is a step up from the small Dewalt.  Though the recent BS introduction of lesser jigsaws and re-positioning  (and higher price point )of the 1590 series jigsaws is a rare misstep on Bosch's part, hopefully this new saw is not a price point only product.

JT
 
Tim Raleigh said:
jmbfestool said:
but dare I say it and YES it is true I have a cheap Karcher thingy!  
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JMB, what is this "cheap Karcher thingy"?

Tim
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LOL

Ill have a look what its actually called tomoro its on the job.  I cnt remember what its full name is I can remember something Karcher it was only like £100 or less I think.  I wouldnt use it for precise work but its mint for ripping down timber quickly.

JMB
 
Julian Tracy said:
The larger Bosch, unlike the larger Dewalt, allows a simple router table insert to be placed in-between the extension and main table. 

Here's some pics of my Bosch 4100 setup:
http://www.juliantracy.com/Bosch%20Tablesaw/

I'd bet the new small Bosch saw is a step up from the small Dewalt.  Though the recent BS introduction of lesser jigsaws and re-positioning  (and higher price point )of the 1590 series jigsaws is a rare misstep on Bosch's part, hopefully this new saw is not a price point only product.

JT
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Julian, that is a brilliant set up!
I really like that, might just have to copy it, instead of making a dedicated router table this looks simpler and more portable. [thumbs up]
 
Julian Tracy said:
The larger Bosch, unlike the larger Dewalt, allows a simple router table insert to be placed in-between the extension and main table.  

Here's some pics of my Bosch 4100 setup:
http://www.juliantracy.com/Bosch%20Tablesaw/

I'd bet the new small Bosch saw is a step up from the small Dewalt.  Though the recent BS introduction of lesser jigsaws and re-positioning  (and higher price point )of the 1590 series jigsaws is a rare misstep on Bosch's part, hopefully this new saw is not a price point only product.

JT
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I like your set up! Its mint!

Might copy it some time!

JMB
 
Ken Nagrod said:
http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=GTS1031

I'll reserve any comments till I actually see it and play with it in the store, when it comes out.  I'll give the production and marketing team manager a call this week to find out what the e.t.a. is and post it.  I'm sure it's gathering up the pre-sales hype right now for the JLC show.
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Hey did you see those Bosch version of systainers in the back of that pickup?  Are they another euro thing?
 
No.  I saw them advertised last year.  Not sure when they first became available, but you can bet they copied Tanos as much as they could, so obviously, they're watchin' Festool quietly.
 
Sortimo: http://www.sortimo.com/index.php?id=1&L=1 is the manufacturer of the Bosch boxes. Saw one at Woodcraft the other day and the handle has a big Sortimo logo on it. Looks as good as a systainer though the T-lock really puts it in its own league.

WRT new bosch... I regret buying the parallel guides as getting a small contractor saw like this would do the job with less setup and hassle than the parallel guides. Ripping small pieces of lumber is just so much faster and easier on a tablesaw. IMO
 
Mark, what about ripping identical pieces of plywood off a large sheet.  Much easier keeping the large sheet stationary and running the TS55 over it using the parallel guides.  No?
 
Ken Nagrod said:
Not sure when they first became available, but you can bet they copied Tanos as much as they could, so obviously, they're watchin' Festool quietly.
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So much so that TTS took them to court, and Sortimo now has to pay TTS/Tanos a small fee for every single L-Boxx they sell. Or so I heard from a Festool UK employee...
 
Ok, so I just spoke to "the man" at Bosch (sort of like Rick Bush at Festool if it matters) and I first told him who I was and there was this long hollowness and cricket sounds in the background followed by, "WHO?"  Just kiddin'

I grilled him a little about the saw and he said they just started shipping them to distributors, so in the next couple of weeks you'll see them for sale.  Home Depot and Lowes are not included and there is no time frame set when and if they will be.

The saw differs from it's big brother in that:
    1.)  They do not share the same motor -- the rpms are higher at 5000 no load to handle tougher materials that the model 4100 handles with it's Constant Response Circuitry

    2.)  It comes with a 24 tooth blade so there's less chance of it bogging down the motor, whereas the 4100 has a 40 tooth blade    

    3.)  The baby saw does not have soft start technology or Constant Response Circuitry to keep the cost and weight down

    4.)  It has also has a smaller arbor shaft to reduce size and weight so you can't use a stacked dado larger than 1/2" and no wobble dadoes allowed

    5.)  Cost and weight were the two most important issues in designing this saw (probably they felt the DeWalt was the closest competitive model)

    6.)  You cannot use blade stabilizers with this saw, you can with the larger 4100

    7.)  This saw uses two wrenches to tighten and loosen the blade arbor nut, the 4100 has a single wrench blade lock mechanism

Any other questions will probably have to wait till the next time I see him as security quickly shuffled me off the phone line and told me to never call again.   [big grin]  I was verbally manhandled.  [blink]  You're not taking this last part seriously, are you?
 
Ken Nagrod said:
Ok, so I just spoke to "the man" at Bosch (sort of like Rick Bush at Festool if it matters) and I first told him who I was and there was this long hollowness and cricket sounds in the background followed by, "WHO?"...
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I get that when I call the real Rick Bush, you'd think he'd remember me since I call him twice a week... [tongue]

Thanks for getting some inside info on the saw.  I read somewhere about a guy that had one, I just can't seem to find that thread again.  Anyway, there were several things he didn't like.  One of them was the blade insert was terrible and I think the fence was iffy too but I could be wrong on that.  It looks like the right size saw for me, I'll be keeping my eye on this.
 
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