New Drill

[richard.selwyn]

Am I losing my marbles?  I am sure a posted earlier today about the new Festool cordless drills i was told about today, but when I tried to find the post to add some extra info I can't find it.  Is it lost in the ether?  Did I dream it?  Did I forget to type post?  Was it sensored? or am I just to tired to see it when it's there all along?

Anyway, roll on the forthcoming 18 volt Festool drill with built in lamp.

 

[sw1211]

I'm guessing you forgot to hit POST, you did post something about the 18V jigsaws.

 

[Brice Burrell]

I'm guessing you forgot to hit POST, you did post something about the 18V jigsaws.

Yeah, I saw the 18V jigsaw post but not the drill post. A 18V drill would be sweet.

 

[Forrest Anderson]

Am I losing my marbles?  I am sure a posted earlier today about the new Festool cordless drills i was told about today, but when I tried to find the post to add some extra info I can't find it.  Is it lost in the ether?  Did I dream it?  Did I forget to type post?  Was it sensored? or am I just to tired to see it when it's there all along?

If you go to your own profile and click on Show the last posts of this person, you will see all your posts. Sadly, I can't see one from you today about drills.

Since I can also confirm that a post on this topic hasn't been deleted by yourself or one of the Moderators, it rather looks as though you didn't click on the "Post" button after you'd finished writing it. Perhaps you closed the window by mistake, or pressed the backspace key resulting in your browser deleting the message before it had been posted? I have lost several messages due to both these actions, and realise how annoying it can be!

Forrest

 

[richard.selwyn]

Thanks for clearing that up.  While I'm trying to track down someone to look into my missing marbles, I should add that Festool France (met some very nice guys from their operation here this morning) are promising several cordless jigsaws, a li-ion C12 drill with light and the previously mentioned 18 volt drill.  I gave them the address of the FOG  - which they knew nothing about - so hope they will come on board even if only as visitors.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Richard, please post it again, will you? We always want to hear about new Festool stuff asap. [eek]

 

[richard.selwyn]

Well, I was at a demo by Festool France at a suppliers and was teasing the rep about the afterthought torch.  He said he was pretty certain that the new drills due to come out this year will had a built in light - he seemed to think it was in the base or lower down rather than by the chuck.  There should be a new lithium ion C12 and a new 18v drill which will share batteries with one of the jigsaws.  They were surprised that I had heard that there was a cordless jigsaw in the pipeline so I told them about the F.O.G.  The were very nice guys and I wasted far too long chatting to them - and ordering some accessories for the vacs.  :-\

They also told me (when I told them it was a bit flimsy) that they have brought out an extra support arm for the kapex extensions - but they couldn't find the reference.  If any one here knows about it could they let me have the reference so I can order a couple - every time you breath on the thing it goes out of square.

The Festool guys reckoned that France was the second biggest market for them in europe after the homeland, with the Netherlands in third place.  I am sure that the US is coming up fast!

Regards,
Richard.

 

[Frank-Jan]

Richard, the braces for the kapex extensions can be found on the ekat-drawing for the extensions (trimming attachments or what they're called).

You'll need:
2 of number 33 (495535)
2 of number 2 (451630)
2 of number 8 (482110)
2 or number 34 (488045)

I saw the things on the fog when the extensions were introduced in the US, so I asked a festool rep about them; the guy hadn't heard of them then, but he would find out and send me a pair for free. A week later I received 2 of the mft3-crossbraces (I already got one with my mft3); when I saw later that the parts were included in the ekatdrawing, I couldn't find the guy's businesscard anymore, so I just ordered the parts instead of arranging to trade the things.

When using those bars, setting up takes a bit longer, and taking of the arms (for removing the sliding part of the fence for example) isn't as quick anymore; but when installed, they're rock solid and won't budge anymore.

I also have to find a way to transport them with my tote

 

[richard.selwyn]

Frank - Jan
Thanks very much.  Im going to try to order them on monday.
I've generally stopped taking the extensions on site with me - I stick the Kapex on the floor with two systainers or sometimes on my trestles (I also try to avoid lugging the MFT to site - I must be getting old!) and use the laser and a tape instead of the stop, unless I know I've got a lot of repetitive cuts.  I used to use it for fitting flooring, but seem to fit too much really cheap laminate flooring which is really hard on the blades.  I am nearly as quick now with the jigsaw and save on effort and cost.  I use the small symmetric saw for the trim.

Very impressive caddy for carrying your parts - Festool should buy the patent off you!

Richard.

 

[Forrest Anderson]

..the braces for the kapex extensions can be found on the ekat-drawing for the extensions (trimming attachments or what they're called).

You'll need:
2 of number 33 (495535)
2 of number 2 (451630)
2 of number 8 (482110)
2 or number 34 (488045)

Frank-Jan

It looks as though you're referring to the following EKAT drawing:

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Could you describe what the new brace (item No 33) fits onto at either end? I assume that the end with the rectangular nut and thumbscrew (Items 2 and 8) attaches to the underside of the aluminium extension (Item 30), but I can't figure out where the end with Item 34 attaches.

I also have to find a way to transport them with my tote

I love that! Are the new braces shown in your photo?

Forrest

 

[peter halle]

I also have to find a way to transport them with my tote

I am sure that you would find many interested viewers - especially me - if you would take some pictures of the tote and explain how you built it.

A part of my hesitation to splurge on the Kapex, plus MFT/Kapex, plus the outriggers, has been what to do with all the parts.

Maybe in a separate thread appropriately named so that future viewers could easily find it.

Please, Please!

Peter

 

[Forrest Anderson]

I am sure that you would find many interested viewers - especially me - if you would take some pictures of the tote and explain how you built it.

I agree! Carrying all the parts that comprise the Kapex Extension set is difficult and I'm always worried about dropping one of the extension arms. Your carrier design looks great and I too would like details of how you made it.

Forrest

 

[Michael Kellough]

Frank - Jan
Thanks very much.  Im going to try to order them on monday.
I've generally stopped taking the extensions on site with me - I stick the Kapex on the floor with two systainers or sometimes on my trestles (I also try to avoid lugging the MFT to site - I must be getting old!) and use the laser and a tape instead of the stop, unless I know I've got a lot of repetitive cuts.  I used to use it for fitting flooring, but seem to fit too much really cheap laminate flooring which is really hard on the blades.  I am nearly as quick now with the jigsaw and save on effort and cost.  I use the small symmetric saw for the trim.

Very impressive caddy for carrying your parts - Festool should buy the patent off you!

Richard.

Richard, you're cutting laminate flooring with a jigsaw?
If that works well a cordless jigsaw might be nice.

How do you do that? Cut from underneath?

How do you make a square cut? Do you have to mark a square line to follow?

 

[Brice Burrell]

Richard, you're cutting laminate flooring with a jigsaw?
If that works well a cordless jigsaw might be nice.

How do you do that? Cut from underneath?

How do you make a square cut? Do you have to mark a square line to follow?

Michael, I use a jigsaw to cut prefinished flooring all the time. The finish is murder on a mitersaw blade. Since the cuts are almost all hidden they don't need to be super clean (or straight). I hold a speed square on the floor board to guide the jigsaw so it's pretty fast with hardly any airborne dust. I work over a garbage can so what little dust is made is kept under control. At the end of the job all I have to do is pitch a jigsaw blade instead of resharpen my miter saw blade. 

Frank, I'd like to see a thread of the carrier also. Maybe some pictures of the Kapex rig set up too.

 

[Frank-Jan]

Could you describe what the new brace (item No 33) fits onto at either end? I assume that the end with the rectangular nut and thumbscrew (Items 2 and 8) attaches to the underside of the aluminium extension (Item 30), but I can't figure out where the end with Item 34 attaches

Sorry for not replying sooner, I typed a reply this afternoon, but forgot to hit the postbutton when I was called downstairs (we were celebrating my fathers birthday and had a full house of family)

You're correct about the part that attaches to the extension, the other part rests on top of the mft, at the bottom there's a welded on "bushing" that fits into a hole in the mft, the "bushing" has a threaded hole inside, and you can attach it to the mft by screwing in the knob (item 34) from underneath the mft.

Shane has posted a picture some time ago of the braces installed on a kapex that sits on a mft800, I'll edit this post if I find the link.

I would have liked the new braces better if they had an open-ended hole, like the crossbars for the mft3, that way you wouldn't have to remove the thumbscrew from the rectangular nut to attach them.

I didn't have the new parts yet when I took the pictures of the carry-thing, but they are angled, so they would stick out to much if left attached to the extensions.

/edit: Link to thread with the pictures I've only installed the things once to check if they worked, but I usually put the kapex one hole more towards the rear of the mft; and then the "braces" are attached to the mft in front of the saw instead of behind it.

 

[Forrest Anderson]

You're correct about the part that attaches to the extension, the other part rests on top of the mft, at the bottom there's a welded on "bushing" that fits into a hole in the mft, the "bushing" has a threaded hole inside, and you can attach it to the mft by screwing in the knob (item 34) from underneath the mft.

Link to thread with the pictures

Frank-Jan

Many thanks for the description and finding Shane's pictures - it's all clear now!

Forrest

 

[Frank-Jan]

For those interested in the carrier, I just came up with it by accident. I needed to put the extensions aside and I put them ontop of a "H" I made from scraps (a result from the first "test run" of my domino that was lying around). I took a few pictures and wanted to upload them last year to a thread about the dewalt stand, but then I got sidetracked and forgot. I'll start a thread about it tuesday (I have a long day tomorrow, and it's pretty late now)  for future reference, but there's really not much to it.

 

[peter halle]

For those interested in the carrier, I just came up with it by accident. I needed to put the extensions aside and I put them ontop of a "H" I made from scraps (a result from the first "test run" of my domino that was lying around). I took a few pictures and wanted to upload them last year to a thread about the dewalt stand, but then I got sidetracked and forgot. I'll start a thread about it tuesday (I have a long day tomorrow, and it's pretty late now)  for future reference, but there's really not much to it.

Sorry to hijack the thread - but thanks!

Peter

 

[richard.selwyn]

Richard, you're cutting laminate flooring with a jigsaw?
If that works well a cordless jigsaw might be nice.

How do you do that? Cut from underneath?

How do you make a square cut? Do you have to mark a square line to follow?
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I've got to confess that I don't often even draw a line.  I do often cut from underneath if i am following a line, (but I was cutting ply today for a shop install and when I needed to be careful I was able to get a pretty good cut from above)

"Floating" laminate flooring here seems to need a minimum of at least 10mm gap all around for movement which is generally covered by some cheap nasty skirting board covered in paper printed to the same pattern as the floor.  Since this means that my cuts wont be seen (except around doors etc) I decided that I was wasting my time and money making perfect cuts with the Kapex.  What I'd really like is the Lamello tool for cutting the gap all around so I could bang down the flooring even quicker, but it is very expensive and I still don't see how I can cut into corners.

The jigsaw with the splinter guard thingy in place will actually make near perfect cuts if you have the right blade and go slowly enough, but I am ashamed to say that as times are more than hard here, I just push the jigsaw through as fast as I can and count on the fact that no-one will ever see the cut.  I don't like it but can't really see that it makes any difference to the client who in the case of laminate floors is often just interested in price.  Since I make it all up as I go along, I would be glad of some advice from someone who really knows what they are doing.  [unsure]

richard.

 

[justinmcf]

hi richard, you are doing it perfectly. i use the exact same method.
when i need to be quarter of a millimetre perfect, i am.
but when i know that the floorboards are getting covered with skirting, theres no need to be precise. its a waste of time and money.

lately, clients have been asking for no skirtings. therefor we supply 10mm - 15mm strips of cork. as this product is flexible, it allows you to cut the timber floor as usual with 10mm expansion joints which we then fill in with the cork strips. this allows the timber floor to expand and contract as per usual, and also creates i very nice streamlined finish which some clients prefer these days.

regards, justin.