New ETS 125 250 W 2 MM vs Bosch ROS 65

[Steven Owen]

It is pretty intuitive... Push it just a bit to go slow, depress it more for medium, and smash it for full speed.

I assume that snowmobile throttles still have the thumb operated throttle?
There should be an example around you

Or run (or walk) down to the nearest panel beaters, as their pneumatic sanders usually all use a paddle.

Festool’s biggest mistake on the ETS-EC series is the 400 W motor.  The 500 W motor on the Mirka Deros doesn’t seem like much.  The extra 100 W of power is the reason why people feel the Mirka Deros is faster and more agile than the ETS-EC-150 5mm units.

Both seem good but my time on a ETS/EC is in the minutes, not hours.
However, I do not hesitate to recommend ETS/EC as it is in many ways a clone of the DEROS (with a switch).

In comparison I have a 450W 1/2-sheet sander that does a 2.2 mm stroke at 12k rpm.
I thought that the DEROS was 450W?

In any case the Mirka takes ~60% of the time that the 1/2-sheet takes... So it is about more than just watts.
This is especially true if one is not jamming down on the sander. Which they say NOT to do in about every tutorial.
I doubt that they use anywhere near the 450W in normal use, because when one does jam down they sound like they stay close to the same speed.
Maybe a 200W sander does not run as jack-rabbit'ity fast as the 400-500W ones? and could be slower?

The removal rate seems pretty linear with the orbit size between a 2.5-mm oribit and a 5-mm orbit.

No one seems to provide a decent real-world comparison, just specs.
I did a kindergarten comparison on a bench top with identical grit screens on both sanders.

Several guys have posted videos on You Tube using the EC-150 5 mm against the Mirka Deros 5 mm. Most of them try to draw a conclusion that the Mirka is slightly faster than the EC 5 mm.  Most of the differences are hard to discern and subjective. 

 

[Holmz]

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Several guys have posted videos on You Tube using the EC-150 5 mm against the Mirka Deros 5 mm. Most of them try to draw a conclusion that the Mirka is slightly faster than the EC 5 mm.  Most of the differences are hard to discern and subjective.

I would not put too much value on a perception of "a bit, or slightly, faster"... The main point was to point out the Mirka as an option.
If light weight is important then those are hands-down the top two, and it then becomes mostly an argument over a switch.

If it is on a bench then there are more options when weight doesn't matter, or if one really wants a 8 or 12-mm orbit.

I cannot imagine you would have much to complain about with either sander.
I did not get paws on the ETS/EC until well after I had the DEROS, but I was impressed with it.
I have zero 'ragrets' with the yellow one [cool] and imagine the green one would be difficult to not like too.

(Which one is cheaper?  [smile] - You will need some screens...)

 

[Steven Owen]

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Several guys have posted videos on You Tube using the EC-150 5 mm against the Mirka Deros 5 mm. Most of them try to draw a conclusion that the Mirka is slightly faster than the EC 5 mm.  Most of the differences are hard to discern and subjective.

I would not put too much value on a perception of "a bit, or slightly, faster"... The main point was to point out the Mirka as an option.
If light weight is important then those are hands-down the top two, and it then becomes mostly an argument over a switch.

If it is on a bench then there are more options when weight doesn't matter, or if one really wants a 8 or 12-mm orbit.

I cannot imagine you would have much to complain about with either sander.
I did not get paws on the ETS/EC until well after I had the DEROS, but I was impressed with it.
I have zero 'ragrets' with the yellow one [cool] and imagine the green one would be difficult to not like too.

(Which one is cheaper?  [smile] - You will need some screens...)

The question of which one is cheaper gets complicated.

- The new Festool hoses don’t fit the Mirka perfectly.  You may end-up having to buy a Mirka hose if you can’t find an adapter
- Mirka Accessories are cheaper
- The Deros can be changed into a 5 inch unit.  The Festool can’t.  You can turn the Deros 6 into a 5 inch if need be.
- The Festool has a much wider range of accessories available.  The more options to adapt the Festool to different types of jobs.