New Festool power adapter coming?

[wpz]

Found this online:

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here:https://www.industria24.pl/adapter-sieciowy-aca-220-240-18v-festool

First I thought it was a fake image, but they seem to be genuine Festool dealers.

this is a crude translation:

Details
Description:
- No time limits: if we want to get a permanent electric power supply, we can replace the 18 V battery (3.1Ah, 5.2Ah, 6.2Ah) with a plug it power adapter - an ideal solution in conjunction with a Festool mobile vacuum cleaner
- for operation without interruptions with the mains supply of Festool cordless devices
- not suitable for devices working with 18 V Ergo batteries
- ergonomic, lightweight design

Equipment:
- plug it power cable (4 m)
- in SB packaging for hanging on a perforated wall
More information
More information
our price
PLN 799.00
Short description
ACA 220-240 / 18V power adapter from Festool
Technical data
- Weight 0.4 kg
- Input voltage 220 - 240 V
- Voltage 18 - 20 V
Weight
0.7000
Manufacturer
Festool

Does anyone have more info about this new product?
wpz

 

[Bob D.]

Interesting concept but it doesn't seem possible.

You would have to convert your mains AC power to 18V DC (at load) and have a amperage capacity equal to the max discharge rate of a battery. Plus you will need some cooling of some sort as I doubt air cooling will work for very long if they want to try to replicate the run time of a battery.

 

[squall_line]

"ACA 220-240/18v Ergo" is the name of the mains adapter for the sanders.  It appears that they just cribbed the idea and the product name and mocked up something in photoshop.  This is the concept that is brought up from time to time in the "Festool Wish List" section/thread.

 

[Cheese]

This reminds me of a few years ago when there was a lot of speculation that Milwaukee was going to offer a track saw...

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[Tom the Remodeler]

Interesting concept but it doesn't seem possible.

You would have to convert your mains AC power to 18V DC (at load) and have a amperage capacity equal to the max discharge rate of a battery. Plus you will need some cooling of some sort as I doubt air cooling will work for very long if they want to try to replicate the run time of a battery.

I can't speak to the validity of this particular product, but this concept has been implemented several times over the years. In the late 90's/early 00's Dewalt had a 24V NiCad platform that had a AC adapter as an option, and I believe that Metabo HPT (Hitachi/Hikoki) offers this on their 36V line of cordless. The Dewalt system incorporated the AC converter into the "battery" block, while the current Hitachi offering has the AC converter inline with the cord. So, definitely possible and has been implemented by a variety of manufacturers, but it's a bit of a niche use case.... 

Dewalt Flexvolt saw with 120V corded adapter:https://www.dewalt.com/products/pow...d-sliding-miter-saw-kit-2-batteries/dhs790at2

Hitachi adapter:https://www.metabo-hpt.com/us/main-navigation/item/et36a-36v-multivolt-ac-adapter

 

[morts10n]

Im waiting for cordless battery chargers

 

[DeformedTree]

Im waiting for cordless battery chargers

The already have them.
https://www.festool.com/press/pi-16-17/folder-press-information-16-17/sys-powerstation

Lots of companies make "powerstations"

 

[Cheese]

Lots of companies make "powerstations"

Milwaukee offers this...https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Batteries-and-Chargers/Other/2846-20

 

[jimbo51]

The price of 799 is eye catching. I wonder who the target audience is.

I am looking forward to compressed vacuum for dust extractors. I think that concept has a lot of potential over cordless.

 

[squall_line]

The price of 799 is eye catching. I wonder who the target audience is.

For which item?

For the original post, PLN 799,00 comes out to around $210 USD.  That's higher than the Ergo Mains adapter which only retails for $120 USD.

Then again, pricing between countries and regions is rarely in line with direct exchange rate conversions.

 

[TinyShop]

Surprised so many missed the obvious. Look at the part number listed in the product page: 202501. Confusion resolved.

 

[Bob D.]

Lots of companies make "powerstations"

Milwaukee offers this...https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Batteries-and-Chargers/Other/2846-20

Nice, needs a 1/4-20 thread in the body so you can mount a GoPro or other camera. Then you could run a camera for extended periods and not worry about the battery draining.

 

[jeh]

People on this forum make stuff. I am certain with a scrap 1x4 and threaded insert you can cobble together what you need without waiting for a product that will never be created. Post of photo of your creation for all of us to see. It is a good idea.

 

[Coen]

Interesting concept but it doesn't seem possible.

You would have to convert your mains AC power to 18V DC (at load) and have a amperage capacity equal to the max discharge rate of a battery. Plus you will need some cooling of some sort as I doubt air cooling will work for very long if they want to try to replicate the run time of a battery.

You don't need 18V at load as the battery doesn't offer that either (it sags). This thing is also listed as being 700 grams... so definitely some room to work with. People that want to use tools under full load during longer periods should have bought the corded tool to begin with.

They have something equal with the sanders.

Also, the DC output doesn't have to be 'clean' like it has to be for a computer.

 

[notenoughcash]

just googled the part number that someone posted above and it led me to the standard one of the sanders.

if they did do that, i would snap one up in an instant for my tsc, but i would like to know if it would run like it does on 18v.

 

[Cheese]

Nice, needs a 1/4-20 thread in the body so you can mount a GoPro or other camera. Then you could run a camera for extended periods and not worry about the battery draining.

Here ya go Bob...a teaser.  [smile]

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[Michael Kellough]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]  okay, you can plug it in but does it run?

DX 93 pulls fewer than 175 watts?

 

[mino]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]  okay, you can plug it in but does it run?

DX 93 pulls fewer than 175 watts?

150

Ref OP, the photo is clearly shopped.

I guess someone figured it will be a good scam target. They will sell the Ergo adapters overpriced by 100% and when the buyers will complain, they will say the part number was right and the "bad photo" is not a reason for a refund. And I am sure they have "photos are illustrative" somewhere in their small print ...

 

[Cheese]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]  okay, you can plug it in but does it run?

DX 93 pulls fewer than 175 watts?

Like a champ [member=297]Michael Kellough[/member]...the DX is rated at 150 watts. I started with the ETC EC 125/150 and the power draw was too much. It would slowly spin once or twice and then immediately shut down. 

So I went to the DX which was at hand and away we went. This photo is what I managed to sand in about 15-20 minutes with the DX 93 using 180 grit Granat on aged teak. The battery was a 90 watt version. And after the sanding was done & this photo was taken the battery had just changed to level 2.

I then swapped in a 72 watt battery and sanded a different piece of furniture for about 15 minutes, the power level was also at 2 when I finished after 15 minutes.

Using a DMM, the voltage checks in at 116-117 volts, pretty consistently for 4 different batteries. That's probably far more uniform power than some power companies in the US are capable of producing. My local mains typically produces 120 volts ±1 volt.

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[rst]

Wonder how the ETS would fair with one of the 12amp batteries, I have one of those, two 8amp and three 9amp that I use for my Milwaukee air compressor, blower and trimmers.  PS, I've used Stihl trimmers for 40 years, selling the two I have, Milwaukee's string is amazing.