New Festool Products

[luvmytoolz]

I've seen someone mention scangrip lights. They have adapters for every brand including festool. Has anyone tried them?

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member] I actually have a number of photography LED light and panels, but they're always such a pain to assemble and the batteries add further inconvenience.

Now that I've bought into the Festool battery platform in a big way, being able to use the same batteries as my tools is just invaluable, so I'd be very happy to pretty much replace most of my lighting where suitable with the new Festool ones, the convenience and never needing to worry about the batteries would save me so much time and mucking around.

Runs off to google.....finds the basic 8000 lumen with the optional stand (no adaptors) is almost $1000...sigh...beer time!

 

[woodbutcherbower]

I’m with [member=2726]Tom Gensmer[/member] on this. My work also consists of niche, one-off, high-end stuff for relatively wealthy customers with beautiful clean homes. Plenty to see in ‘Member Projects’. I was very interested in a Systainer air scrubber when a thread appeared on the Maxvac awhile ago (I’ll find it and attach the link). My motivator was the amount of time I spend cleaning up specifically during kitchen installations - only to walk back in the next day to find every surface covered with a superfine dust film which had settled overnight.

The Maxvac didn’t work out for the FOG member who purchased it - and to this day, I’m still being bombarded with spam from the company despite having repeatedly unsubscribed from their mailing list. I’ll be taking a close look at the air scrubber.

Kevin

Edit - here’s the link;https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-and-tanos-systainers/systainer-air-scrubber/

 

[woodbutcherbower]

Hearing protection.....too late. Tinnitus from a fever (as a kid) and rock concerts in the late 70s- early 80, did their thing. Thankfully, it hasn't gotten worse.

+1 EXACTLY the same !!! Are you sure we weren’t separated at birth?  [big grin] [big grin]

 

[luvmytoolz]

Hearing protection.....too late. Tinnitus from a fever (as a kid) and rock concerts in the late 70s- early 80, did their thing. Thankfully, it hasn't gotten worse.

+1 EXACTLY the same !!! Are you sure we weren’t separated at birth?  [big grin] [big grin]

Oh boy, concerts as a teeenager, the speakers were absolutely deafening and the ears would be ringing for days. At least the audio at modern concerts has dramatically improved, maybe with the exception of the Elton John concert we went to last year which was horrifically bad. But the Roger Waters one was studio quality audio, quite amazing.

 

[Cheese]

Runs off to google.....finds the basic 8000 lumen with the optional stand (no adaptors) is almost $1000...sigh...beer time!

When paying in US dollars the Scangrip offerings are pretty reasonable if not bordering on inexpensive.  [smile]
The individual Smart Connectors for various batteries costs $13 while the Vega 4 4000 lumen light costs $146.
https://www.scangrip.com/en-gb/products/connect/smart-connectorhttps://www.scangrip.com/en-gb/shop/work-light-range/floodlights/vega-4-connect

My favorite is the small 1000 lumen Basic Connect for $65 then add a Festool adapter for $13.
https://www.scangrip.com/en-gb/shop/all-products/connect/basic-connect-4

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[Chainring]

I'm surprised Festool didn't include stepless dimming in the smaller light. Three brightness levels and that's it. Also, since there's no AC power, it'll no longer have the emergency lighting feature. Pretty cool, although I wonder how many people used it or even knew about it.

The big light looks awesome.

 

[jonnyrocket]

…since there's not AC power, it'll no longer have the emergency lighting feature. wonder how many people used it or even knew about it….

Ok [member=75208]Chainring[/member]  I’ll bite. What’s this emergency lighting feature you speak of? Which model of light is it on?

 

[Chainring]

[member=66966]jonnyrocket[/member]

It's on the KAL II. Hold the on/off button while plugging in the AC adapter. Charging light (orange) turns on and either flashes if it's charging or solid if it's charged. The light will be off in this state. If power goes out, the light kicks on.

 

[jonnyrocket]

Thanks [member=75208]Chainring[/member], I learned something new today! I’ll have to give this a try.

 

[Chainring]

[member=66966]jonnyrocket[/member],

You're welcome. I may never use it, but it sure seems to be a thoughtful feature.

 

[semenza]

I'm surprised Festool didn't include stepless dimming in the smaller light. Three brightness levels and that's it. Also, since there's no AC power, it'll no longer have the emergency lighting feature. Pretty cool, although I wonder how many people used it or even knew about it.

The big light looks awesome.

Personally I prefer the three level choice. Easy to know what level it's on. Click, click, click and see the brightness change. I find the stepless to be PIA. I have a stepless light that I like very much so I put up with it. But I am always holding it too long or not long enough, and never know if it is on full or whatever level when I turn it on. So press and hold as it cycles through and try to stop it at full level, etc.

I'll be getting the new Festool as soon as possible. I like that it has the tilt feature now. Internal battery is nice but I'll take the more compact storage size since I will already have batteries in my site work kit.

Seth

 

[FestitaMakool]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member] I actually have a number of photography LED light and panels, but they're always such a pain to assemble and the batteries add further inconvenience.

Now that I've bought into the Festool battery platform in a big way, being able to use the same batteries as my tools is just invaluable, so I'd be very happy to pretty much replace most of my lighting where suitable with the new Festool ones, the convenience and never needing to worry about the batteries would save me so much time and mucking around.

Well, there sure is differences between the options. I look for universal use when buying lighting.
I prefer built in battery and running from mains as a default. +/- 2 hours seems to be where most are before becoming way to heavy and bulky.
I’m thinking of a KAL II - as I have KAL I. Then again, it’s rarely used. I like the quality of light and the ball head (which I don’t have) seems really useful. A hook only is a PITA to get the light where you need it..
Lately I bought the lantern from Makita in the 18V version, with built in DAB+ and FM radio + that you can choose from 3 lighting levels (close one on the “back” to not have it in your eyes) It also have 3 color settings to match ambient or daylight.
I’ve grabbed this more than any else lately. It’s not very powerful, nor does it run on mains, only battery. But still it spreads the light well being tube shaped.

 

[PaulMarcel]

Lately I bought the lantern from Makita in the 18V version, with built in DAB+ and FM radio

I'm always surprised when I read about products having FM radio. I'm certain the only 2 times the radio was on in my car in the past 15 years was when I changed the battery and the sound system defaulted to... AM radio. But at a job site, that's probably the best option. It's why the Sys-Rock was so confusing to me.  [blink]

Then again, we don't have DAB+ here so FM is likely to address the NAINA of DAB+

 

[Packard]

Lately I bought the lantern from Makita in the 18V version, with built in DAB+ and FM radio

I'm always surprised when I read about products having FM radio. I'm certain the only 2 times the radio was on in my car in the past 15 years was when I changed the battery and the sound system defaulted to... AM radio. But at a job site, that's probably the best option. It's why the Sys-Rock was so confusing to me.  [blink]

Then again, we don't have DAB+ here so FM is likely to address the NAINA of DAB+

Speaking of which, FM reception is so poor in my area, that I have not turned on my late 1970s or early 1980s component stereo.  A tuner, a separate amplifier and too-large-to-sit-on-a-shelf speakers in almost 30 years.  And yet I can’t bear to throw them out, remembering how long I saved up to buy them.

 

[Coen]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member] I actually have a number of photography LED light and panels, but they're always such a pain to assemble and the batteries add further inconvenience.

Now that I've bought into the Festool battery platform in a big way, being able to use the same batteries as my tools is just invaluable, so I'd be very happy to pretty much replace most of my lighting where suitable with the new Festool ones, the convenience and never needing to worry about the batteries would save me so much time and mucking around.

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I prefer built in battery
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But why? Much harder to fix a broken battery.

I detest things with fixed battery. The battery usually reaches end of life long before the tool itself does. The same with phones, but with phones there is basically no choice left

I happen to have a battery spot welder, but it's expensive and not for everyone. I upgraded a Metabo 14.4 pack from 2009 from an (original) 1.3 Ah to 2.5 Ah last weekend, replaced a leaking cell in a Bosch ProCore 18V 4Ah pack and put in all new cells in a Bosch 18V 5 Ah pack.

My hair clipper has a built-in (NiMh) battery and it wears down too. Super annoying when it craps out when you only did half your head..

 

[Michael Kellough]

[member=1619]SRSemenza[/member]  “I find the stepless to be PIA. I have a stepless light that I like very much so I put up with it. But I am always holding it too long or not long enough, and never know if it is on full or whatever level when I turn it on. So press and hold as it cycles through and try to stop it at full level, etc.”

Ditto exactly!

Yesterday was the 100th anniversary of the first broadcast of WNYC radio. I listen to the FM lineup all the time although mostly without using an actual radio. It’s a lot easier to carry my phone around than lug a radio even though reception of radio waves is a lot more reliable than my WiFi.

 

[mino]

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I'll make the gentle suggestion that if you need to work 12 hour days to make ends meet, you need to seriously reconsider your business structure or find a different career. Also, ridiculous to expect entry level workers to put in 12 hour days, there's more to life than work. I'm working fewer hours/week now than I was a few years ago but earning double, mostly due to identifying a specific market niche (custom doors, windows, and repair work), and charging an appropriate rate to fill an underserved market need. No need to work 12 hour days when I can cover all my expenses and bring home a healthy income working 40 hour weeks (or less), more time to spend with my family, travel, and/or build the business.

Actually. I would argue this is heavily situational.

Over here /and I believe Chicago is similar on this/ we have the full 4 seasons. This means the construction industry is essentially "turned off" afor about 4 months of a year.

Therefore it is absolutely normal to pull 12/6 shifts for 6 months during the main construction season AND to have no work/take time off during the winter.

The same during the rainy weeks in summer - the sites mostly "shut down", workers take days off and once the weather allows they re-spin into 12h days.

I am not saying it is optimal for health. But there is a HUGE difference pulling 12/6 for a month or two and then having a month or two free/recovery time. And pulling the same 12/6 all-year-long like in a California where the weather is rarely a limitation.

At my uni years, it was absolutely common to take side-jobs at construction sites and the standard summer day was 8-20, sometimes even 7-21 for the core group. And it was absolutely fine since these were just a few days, weeks at most. It is not like we were digging trenches by hand all day long .. or that it was mentally demanding work.

To the original topic: I see all three things in my shopping cart. The air filtration unit being more for domestic use even, not just for shop use.

 

[Brev]

I'm definitely interested to see more of the smaller light. It seems the price will be lower than the previous version with built in battery.

I wonder what the country of origin will be?

 

[jeh]

I detest things with fixed battery. The battery usually reaches end of life long before the tool itself does. The same with phones, but with phones there is basically no choice left

There is a video where this topic is discussed with an Apple engineer. I will not get into the details but the summary is a sealed battery allows for the strongest possible design and the ability to continue to work after being submerged in water, while accommodating the competing goals of smallest footprint with the largest screen and smallest bezel. This means phones less phone failures and more happy customers.

Phones with removable batteries cannot be as strong or as waterproof/water resistant as one with a sealed battery when trying to meet the goals of smallest footprint with the largest screen and smallest bezel. It would impossible to match the footprint of sealed battery phone with a battery having the same capacity.

There may be a market for removable batteries but not enough of one for any manufacturer to consider it.

 

[Coen]

I detest things with fixed battery. The battery usually reaches end of life long before the tool itself does. The same with phones, but with phones there is basically no choice left

There is a video where this topic is discussed with an Apple engineer. I will not get into the details but the summary is a sealed battery allows for the strongest possible design and the ability to continue to work after being submerged in water, while accommodating the competing goals of smallest footprint with the largest screen and smallest bezel. This means phones less phone failures and more happy customers.

Phones with removable batteries cannot be as strong or as waterproof/water resistant as one with a sealed battery when trying to meet the goals of smallest footprint with the largest screen and smallest bezel. It would impossible to match the footprint of sealed battery phone with a battery having the same capacity.

There may be a market for removable batteries but not enough of one for any manufacturer to consider it.

Obsession with small bezels is what creates failures in the first place.

Good that you brought up Apple... they are in the center of evil when it comes to repairability. And going by the rate of it's users that have broken charger cables... the defects are by design. Or just look at their laptop notebook wall adapters... huge block hanging in the outlet, creating trip hazards... and opportunities for it to break. While 99% of the competition uses exchange AC cord > brick with DC cord. That allows for not having something stick out of the wall or other place where you don't want it.

The first daily-use phone I had with a non-replaceable battery was also the first phone that broke.

And this is all egged on by dumb journalists. The same crowd that gave the phone (Pixel 6a) I have now bonus points for having a "glass back" instead of "cheap plastic" ... but in fact it has a plastic back. Which is good, because it won't break as easily. But had they realized, the phone would have gotten a worse score from them.