New Granat Profile sanding sponges

[Cheese]

Just ran across these on the Festool USA website. The 80mm x 133mm could be really handy when used on the LS 130 sander.

Grit Abrasives 80x133 GR PRO/10-Set Granat PROfile

www.festoolusa.com

 

[six-point socket II]

Cool product! Will come in handy, yes. Delighted to see they make them for the DTS as well.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Michael Kellough]

Just ran across these on the Festool USA website. The 80mm x 133mm could be really handy when used on the LS 130 sander.

Grit Abrasives 80x133 GR PRO/10-Set Granat PROfile

www.festoolusa.com

I’m skeptical. How much of the limited motion of the LS130 will be preserved by the time it passes through the sponge?
I want to see video of the pad working on a random orbit sander. Will it rotate at all with that much engagement/wrap around a deeply profiled workpiece?

Skeptical but hopeful…

 

[Vtshopdog]

I just finished reading the same spam note about this from Festool and came here to see if anyone else is more informed. Agree with Michael about being skeptical & hopeful, but damn, there are lots of shapes I'd love to power sand if these work.

The pads appear to be about $3 each and I'm also concerned with durability - rather than new builds, I think mostly my uses for this would be on renovation sanding which tends to hammer abrasive sheets quickly.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I saw that today too. I'm skeptical too, seems like the foam would be soft enough to absorb the motion of the orbits.
If it was any more solid, the concept wouldn't work.

 

[jeffinsgf]

Why would it be any different than the foam pad for the RO-90? That works rather nicely.

 

[luvmytoolz]

The foam looks to be the same as with the foam hand sanding pads I bought ages back supplied in various Granat grits. That's a surprisingly firm foam, nothing like the thick interference pads that have lots of give, so if it is the same, I think it would work very well with the LS130. It would certainly excel at fine finish sanding.

 

[fritter63]

Why would it be any different than the foam pad for the RO-90? That works rather nicely.

Rotation is different than vibration.

 

[Cheese]

I just finished reading the same spam note about this from Festool and came here to see if anyone else is more informed. Agree with Michael about being skeptical & hopeful, but damn, there are lots of shapes I'd love to power sand if these work.

The pads appear to be about $3 each and I'm also concerned with durability - rather than new builds, I think mostly my uses for this would be on renovation sanding which tends to hammer abrasive sheets quickly.

Well this is tragic...I hit the wrong reply button and now I can't delete this message that I never intended to reply to in the first place.

 

[fritter63]

@Cheese your point is completely lost on me.... ^^^^^^^^^^

 

[luvmytoolz]

Well this is tragic...I hit the wrong reply button and now I can't delete this message that I never intended to reply to in the first place.

It's annoying isn't it, you should have the ability to delete your own messages if it's the last one posted in the thread.

 

[Cheese]

So here is my original comment...I'd think that 4mm of lineal motion is more aggressive than 2mm of orbital motion. That's the reason I suggested using this stuff on the LS 130.

Besides, this isn't much different than using an interface pad with a piece of Granat attached to it.

 

[Coen]

They should bring back the LS 130 already.

 

[luvmytoolz]

They should bring back the LS 130 already.

It's really surprising to me they discontinued it in the first place, there's nothing else like it on the market.

 

[onocoffee]

Cool product! Will come in handy, yes. Delighted to see they make them for the DTS as well.

Kind regards,
Oliver

Agreed. A DTS Interface Pas is sorely missing in their accessories. This is good news.

 

[mino]

It's really surprising to me they discontinued it in the first place, there's nothing else like it on the market.

Scale & saturation of the market.

Most who have a use for it already own it ... same case why One-Time tools exist. Those sanders last decades, so the secondary market will cover the use case for a decade more or so.

To me the bigger concern is availability of essential consumables like pads.

IMO Festool should create a category of "essential" consumables which will cover things like pads for the LS130 and other high-wear/limited lifetime items and include them in the 10 years parts guarantee.
This needs to be public - so the customer knows which consumables are guaranteed to remain available.

On the economy side, all that is needed is that once the sales of those consumables inevitably dwindle, raise prices to keep them still profitable to stock towards the end of the guaranteed availability period, instead of dropping them as is the case today.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Those sanders last decades, so the secondary market will cover the use case for a decade more or so.

To me the bigger concern is availability of essential consumables like pads.

Funny you mention that mino, I was shaping a custom pad just last weekend for my LS130, and it occurred to me that aside from the retaining clips, it also has 4 screw holes. And as the PU pads are hard, there's no reason you couldn't simply make new equivalent pads out of timber, HDPE, etc, and simply drill 4 holes to screw them on.

The velcro sheets are super cheap on Temu, Ebay, etc, I bought a 10m roll of 150mm for not much at all. And if you want a softer pad then standard 150mm interference or protection pads can be cut to suit.

I think the linear motion makes it a great candidate for jerry-rigged pads.

 

[rst]

When I refinished my Adirondack set, the standard pad was too wide. I bought another and cut it down width wise to the smallest slat. I have always modified my tools in order to work for whatever I needed.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Funny you mention that mino, I was shaping a custom pad just last weekend for my LS130, and it occurred to me that aside from the retaining clips, it also has 4 screw holes. And as the PU pads are hard, there's no reason you couldn't simply make new equivalent pads out of timber, HDPE, etc, and simply drill 4 holes to screw them on.

The velcro sheets are super cheap on Temu, Ebay, etc, I bought a 10m roll of 150mm for not much at all. And if you want a softer pad then standard 150mm interference or protection pads can be cut to suit.

I think the linear motion makes it a great candidate for jerry-rigged pads.

The reason the custom pad blocks are hard is so the linear motion is actually transferred to the surface of the abrasive, as you know and anyone who has used them knows.

So I’m doubtful that will occur with soft foam in between the machine and the abrasive, even more doubtful the coarser the abrasive. If you apply enough pressure for the abrasive to wrap around the profile the abrasive will stop moving and you’ll just wiggle the foam.

But maybe…

 

[fritter63]

Funny you mention that mino, I was shaping a custom pad just last weekend for my LS130, and it occurred to me that aside from the retaining clips, it also has 4 screw holes. And as the PU pads are hard, there's no reason you couldn't simply make new equivalent pads out of timber, HDPE, etc, and simply drill 4 holes to screw them on.

The velcro sheets are super cheap on Temu, Ebay, etc, I bought a 10m roll of 150mm for not much at all. And if you want a softer pad then standard 150mm interference or protection pads can be cut to suit.

I think the linear motion makes it a great candidate for jerry-rigged pads.

3D printing would be awesome for that too. In fact, if you'd like I could model a generic base (with the screw hole patterns ) that could then be customized for new use cases.