New Kapex Extension KA-UG-l (Left) quick review

[festoller]

It just arrived and I thought you might be interested in some photos and a quick review.

I've been thinking about a Kapex extension/ station for quite some time. Kreg and Incra were my favourite candidates, but when the first photos of the KA-UG came up I decided to wait. What can I say, patience really paid out.

I never liked the old style extension (#495969) and thought Kreg and Incra were much better, but with the new KA-UG Festool has designed another great tool with the quality and versatility you would expect from Festool. It kind of looks like the MFS profile and attaching is done in seconds with 100% accuracy, without any other Festool part such as the crown stop you needed for the old extension. You can either use the leg or the little stand that will level it with the Kapex on any kind of flat surface. No Systainer needed to support the extension, except if you use the Kapex on the MFT/3 such as I do, because I like the extra work hight. The only thing I miss is the extension for the leg to level it with the MFT/3, but as long as you have a SYS 1 that's not a problem. I'll probably build some kind of extension for the leg.

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[jonny round boy]

Oooohhhh,

That looks nice....

[drooling]

 

[windmill man]

This is the new extension that is part of the new Kapex Base Frame. It comes with a single adjustable leg.

 

[windmill man]

See Kapex Wheelbase post There are pics on the link by Eco furniture

 

[Brice Burrell]

Thanks for posting this Festoller. How about some more pictures and measurements.

 

[Gene Howerton]

Wonder when we will get this here in the US.

 

[ForumMFG]

How much did you pay for those?

To be honest, I really want a set because I can use something that is designed to fit perfectly on the Kapex.  I don't travel with my Kapex so it's sits on a bench.  I would love to have these.

Man, I am so tired of everyone in europe getting the cool stuff!

 

[Rob-GB]

I have some questions [eek]

What is the maximum extension length?

Can it be used with the crown stops?

What is the biggest improvement you think over the old style extensions?

I am planning on getting a Kapex this year and while I like the trolley for ease of movement the table set up is still my main want.
Rob.

 

[festoller]

To answer some of your questions:

Length 1450 mm (max. lenght 2400 mm)

Price 250 US$ (180 EUR) without tax.

I can post more photos later this week, as soon as the new extension arrives, since mine had a little dent due to transportation.

The crown stop is not needed, because that's where the KA-UG is attached. Of course this means both can't be used together. But since the KA-UG has a much larger workspace attaching a DIY crown stop is not a problem.

I am shure you'll find a UK dealer (Axminster, Rutlands) that will ship to the US once they have it, but due to the lenght of 1450 mm it could become expensive and you'll have to deal with the metric version. From Germany the shipping would be 150 US$. Or simply ask one of the Ebay dealers if they can ship to the US. Payment could be made with Paypal.

ForumMFG:

I get you, but keep in mind that there's not even a decent Festool forum in Germany and at least there's one Festool you can't get here, the Festool Stabila Level!

 

[jonny round boy]

and at least there's one Festool you can't get here, the Festool Stabila Level!

To be fair, that's not really a Festool product; it's a promotional item. Promo's are often produced outside the company's home country - in this case (I think) it's produced in the US for Festool USA.

 

[Rob-GB]

To answer some of your questions:

Length 1450 mm (max. lenght 2400 mm)

Price 250 US$ (180 EUR) without tax.

I can post more photos later this week, as soon as the new extension arrives, since mine had a little dent due to transportation.

The crown stop is not needed, because that's where the KA-UG is attached. Of course this means both can't be used together. But since the KA-UG has a much larger workspace attaching a DIY crown stop is not a problem.

I am shure you'll find a UK dealer (Axminster, Rutlands) that will ship to the US once they have it, but due to the lenght of 1450 mm it could become expensive and you'll have to deal with the metric version. From Germany the shipping would be 150 US$. Or simply ask one of the Ebay dealers if they can ship to the US. Payment could be made with Paypal.

ForumMFG:

I get you, but keep in mind that there's not even a decent Festool forum in Germany and at least there's one Festool you can't get here, the Festool Stabila Level!

Thanks for the reply, I think I will stick to the old version, part of the attraction is the ease of use crown stops for when I am installing kitchens and office furniture. I think it would save me time in firing up the laptop to work out the compound mitre angles( I have a whole bunch of formulas pre-set in Excel to save time in the shop). ;D
Rob.

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

and at least there's one Festool you can't get here, the Festool Stabila Level!

To be fair, that's not really a Festool product; it's a promotional item. Promo's are often produced outside the company's home country - in this case (I think) it's produced in the US for Festool USA.

It's a Stabila level and it says made in Germany just like the 4 other Stabila's I own.

 

[festoller]

Exactly as far as I could tell from the photos of the Festool Stabila it's a Stabila 196. That one you can get just not the Festool version and the performance is just so much better if you have the proper design. ;D

 

[tbellemare]

The Festool Installers Level is an enhanced version of Stabila's "The Lights", lighted levels.

The Festool level has all the same features as the regular Stabila version plus the frame is continuous across the middle vial and there's a scale that reads from the center out.

Tom

 

[Winchester]

The Festool Installers Level is an enhanced version of Stabila's "The Lights", lighted levels.

The Festool level has all the same features as the regular Stabila version plus the frame is continuous across the middle vial and there's a scale that reads from the center out.

Tom

I've got the stabila lights levels and haven;t used the lights on them yet  [tongue]

 

[festoller]

Does anyone know why the Festool Stabila Level isn't available in Europe, or if it will be?

 

[festoller]

The new Kapex extension has another purpose! Ever missed the old MFT extension on the new MFT/3?

The KA-UG is the perfect fit, level and pretty strong, fits in the V-Kerf just like the Kapex crown Molding wing does!

See yourself:

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And here are some more details of the extension as promised:

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If you like to know anything else please let me know.

 

[bellchippy]

Great pictures Festooler

I have a couple of questions how rugged is the extension, looks fairly robust.
also whats the width?.

Brian

 

[jmbfestool]

To answer some of your questions:

Length 1450 mm (max. lenght 2400 mm)

Price 250 US$ (180 EUR) without tax.

I can post more photos later this week, as soon as the new extension arrives, since mine had a little dent due to transportation.

The crown stop is not needed, because that's where the KA-UG is attached. Of course this means both can't be used together. But since the KA-UG has a much larger workspace attaching a DIY crown stop is not a problem.

I am shure you'll find a UK dealer (Axminster, Rutlands) that will ship to the US once they have it, but due to the lenght of 1450 mm it could become expensive and you'll have to deal with the metric version. From Germany the shipping would be 150 US$. Or simply ask one of the Ebay dealers if they can ship to the US. Payment could be made with Paypal.

ForumMFG:

I get you, but keep in mind that there's not even a decent Festool forum in Germany and at least there's one Festool you can't get here, the Festool Stabila Level!

Thanks for the reply, I think I will stick to the old version, part of the attraction is the ease of use crown stops for when I am installing kitchens and office furniture. I think it would save me time in firing up the laptop to work out the compound mitre angles( I have a whole bunch of formulas pre-set in Excel to save time in the shop). ;D
Rob.

Their is a massive improvement compared to the old version.  I own the old extension for the kapex which I have never used once cus its soo shit its the worst thing festool have every made.

I also own the KA-UG much better you can actually use it on site. You dont need the stupid Crown stops the attach it which I think it ridiculous they should of made it so you can add it if you wanted to not that you have to use them to attach it to the chop saw.

If you want to do a 47 angle cut you cant with the high fences so you need to remove them or slide them further than they should go BUT you cant because the extensions are in the way. 

With the new KA-UG you can still easily remove the high fences easily.   

If the ground isn't level you have to use packers  to get it straight.

The new KA-UG you can move the legs in and out and adjust the stand easily. 

If you need to move the chop saw its impossible with the old setup so you have to take it all apart. 

With the KA-Ug if you just have the left arm attached you can easily move it around the room.

Their isnt silly little bits which can be lost easily unlike the old setup loads of things to be lost. 

On the old model with the stupid tape attached at the end are easily damaged or snapped off. 

All and all the old is crap for site and will just do for work shop.

The KA-UG isnt perfect because you still need to get a straight edge out to set it up every time but its ALOT ALOT better than the old version.

 

[festoller]

I have a couple of questions how rugged is the extension, looks fairly robust.
also whats the width?.

bellchippy:

If by rugged you mean the surface, it's the same aluminum they use for the guides just with tiny kerfs. Due to the design of the extrusion it is really robust and rigid, although due to the aluminum, clamping or other operations can cause dents or damages just like with the other Festool aluminum parts, for example when you clamp the MFT extrusions to hard it can cause awfull dents or even bend the aluminum. The first extension had a dent where the stop was attached (middle of the extension) to the fence, because at that spot there was no reinforcement in the package and during shipping something or someone must have hit the stop and bend the rail. The result was a blockage of the stop/ fence rail and I had to send it back.

My recommendation for Festool would be to take the stop off for transport, because I can see this happen easily again, since the box/ package has a real weak spot where the stop is.

The width is 140 mm (incl. 20 mm for the fence) here's a picture that should show some detail:

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