New Mafell Sys Workbench

[tazprime38]

Saw this at the DM Tool Show. It is a sys top workbench cutting centre that attaches to any systainer and is also stored inside a sys1 t loc.

Expensive at around £309.00

 

[bertv]

That's a rebranded product. Made by Ruwi (Germany):https://ruwi.de/en/produkte/festool-mft3-surface/

Manor Wood over on YT is a user and fan of their MFT/3 add ons

 

[wheely]

The Mafell is a slight tweak from the standard RUWI product though as the arms are hinged so they go inside the Systainer.
https://shop.ruwi.de/produkt/systainer-flaechenadapter-set/

The Mafell systainer is the MA-730, and comes with two arms, four clamps and the systainerhttps://www.its.co.uk/pd/MA-730-MaxxTloc-Workstation-with-Foldaway-Arms-_MAFMA730.htmhttps://www.machinery4wood.co.uk/product.php/sn/MAF/91B 201

 

[Svar]

Miniature saw horses for $350. No, thanks.
All standard framing components made by 80/20 and Bosch Rexroth: aluminum profile, hinge, end caps, brackets, T-nuts. BTW that plastic hinge has aluminum version.

 

[Farming_Sawyer]

I really like the sys-mft systainer. Works great as a temporary jobsite work surface, perfect height as an off feed table when combined with my other systainers. Temporary step. Store my clamps and dogs in it. Inexpensive. I'd get four before buying something like the above.....

 

[Cheese]

That's a pretty slick idea. If you subtract the price of a Sys 1 from the package the rest of the included items seem to be a little more reasonably priced.

What I don't get is why didn't they just attach the ply top directly to the Systainer like the Festool SYS-MFT? Even though the rest of the gear stows away nicely in a Sys 1, you still have the ply/steel top thing to lug around separately.  [eek]

I just may make my own version using some 80/20 items and a SYS-MFT. [smile]

 

[sancho57]

If we use the Lee Valley standoffs we can do basically the same thing.

 

[bror]

I really don’t get this. What’s the point.? what’s it for?

Cutting up really big sheets of material with a track saw on an unstable pile of systainers.?

That seems a life threatenig stunt excercise to me..

It looks to be adjustable in many ways,  none of which I can really see the use of.

What is the advantage over a pair of simple saw horses with your systainers containing your tools ready and accessable

Certainly not the price

The only good thing I can see that it can be stacked inside a systainer, than it’s not in the way.

I think the metal mounting plate is completely over the top. And a one trick pony.

I think it is over designed, overrated and overpriced.

But tazprime38: great foto report and thanks for the scoop.

 

[ben_r_]

I really don’t get this. What’s the point.? what’s it for?

Cutting up really big sheets of material with a track saw on an unstable pile of systainers.?

That seems a life threatenig stunt excercise to me..

It looks to be adjustable in many ways,  none of which I can really see the use of.

What is the advantage over a pair of simple saw horses with your systainers containing your tools ready and accessable

Certainly not the price

The only good thing I can see that it can be stacked inside a systainer, than it’s not in the way.

I think the metal mounting plate is completely over the top. And a one trick pony.

I think it is over designed, overrated and overpriced.

But tazprime38: great foto report and thanks for the scoop.

100% agree!

 

[tallgrass]

I use and love the RUWI products with my festool stuff.  think this is just another way of maximizing the systainer. May be a bridge to far. Maybe for a niche application. There does seem to be a need out there for maximizing the minimum foot print. Not my cup of tea, but it is a choice.

 

[Cheese]

I still think this item has a niche to fill. It was never designed to hold a 4 x 8 sheet of plywood. It's just another way to get the item you're working on closer to waist level, albeit a fairly expensive way. For small items it's certainly easier to work with this than kneeling on a stone patio. I also think it works well for use with a jig saw. Just another option available, you can purchase it or not.

 

[jonathan-m]

I really don’t get this. What’s the point.? what’s it for?
Cutting up really big sheets of material with a track saw on an unstable pile of systainers.?
That seems a life threatenig stunt excercise to me..
It looks to be adjustable in many ways,  none of which I can really see the use of.
What is the advantage over a pair of simple saw horses with your systainers containing your tools ready and accessable
Certainly not the price
The only good thing I can see that it can be stacked inside a systainer, than it’s not in the way.
I think the metal mounting plate is completely over the top. And a one trick pony.
I think it is over designed, overrated and overpriced.
But tazprime38: great foto report and thanks for the scoop.

Hmmm, the metal plate is obviously to raise the wood plate up, so you can still put your hand inside the handle cutout to carry the systainer.
It's obviously not designed for sheet goods, but rather aimed more towards smaller workpieces.
I think it looks like a very useful piece of kit for certain applications for people who need to be mobile. That's why it is also designed to fit inside the systainer format.
Just because you don't see a use case doesn't mean there isn't one.
I don't get the hostility. Maybe the systainer has the wrong color latch and label for you? If you don't like the product just don't buy it...

 

[Vondawg]

Isn’t the FOG  for disciussing these kind of things ? So unless you like this or that just shut up ?? No need to get your “ you know whats “ in a bind, it’s just a healthy conversation. I like everybody’s different opinions on the stuff that’s being done, the tools we do them with, and how different members accomplish and work thru an idea. Not to mention how someone works in another country. So thanks for all the different observations !

 

[semenza]

Observations , discussion, and opinions are welcome.

Seth

 

[Scorpion]

Hmmm, the metal plate is obviously to raise the wood plate up, so you can still put your hand inside the handle cutout to carry the systainer.
It's obviously not designed for sheet goods, but rather aimed more towards smaller workpieces.

No reason why you couldn’t use a coupe of them and spread them out to handle larger sheets.  I like the idea as long as the systainers can be stable enough.  Last thing I’d want is to have a sheet too over a stack while cutting with the trac saw.

 

[Svar]

No reason why you couldn’t use a coupe of them and spread them out to handle larger sheets.

So now we are up to $700 for something that is better handled by $20 saw horses?
The question here is of practicality and value.
What are the chances you'll have bunch of Systainers handy on site to build two stacks of equal height?
Then you need to un-stack your "bench" every time you reach for a tool. And I'm sure the one you need will be in the bottom sys.  [big grin]

This is also a case of extreme over-engineering. Extrusions are cool, but do you need superior rigidity, straightness, and wear resistant coating for what is essentially a disposable spacer for cutting? SYS-MFT is good enough for a quick cut, keep it simple.

I like the idea as long as the systainers can be stable enough.

For stability they should offer titanium extension feet for your systainer stack.

 

[Cheese]

Oh boy...so now we’re castigating the clever use of expensive saw horses while at the same time still extolling the virtues of a $600 track saw that could be easily replaced with a straight 2x4, a clamp and a $40 side winder.

 

[Svar]

Oh boy...so now we’re castigating the clever use of expensive saw horses while at the same time still extolling the virtues of a $600 track saw that could be easily replaced with a straight 2x4, a clamp and a $40 side winder.

Because one is a game changer and the other is a gimmick.

 

[siltsunrise]

Nifty, but hope you've got some sandbags in your bottom container. Looks tippy. Cool for a guy who wants to pack it all up small, but crazy overpriced.

 

[Jaybolishes]

Kinda fits into the golden toilet scenario.  Not everyone will get it but the guys that do really must enjoy doing business on it apparently.