New membership numbers on the FOG

[TylerC]

My participation on Fog dramatically declined few reasons.

1. I became a daddy
2. new topics are often just repeats from old topics.
3. Certain members have not been as active any more which I use to have bant with.
4. Was the final straw when Festool decided to delete old pictures on topics.  This has made many including mine useless and the entire topic might as well be deleted.  I felt whats the point and I now cant be bothered posting any of my jobs/projects on here any more.
5. I feel fog is to slow....if that makes sence? Facebook is much quicker regarding replies and notifications its more mobile friendly 

Good points. Two quick things:

1. It might just be a semantic argument, but  Festool didn't "decide to delete old photos". It happened shortly before I joined the team, but my understanding is that it was an accident by a new employee. The end result is the same, but it wasn't intentional.

2. A lot of people have said that one problem is that certain old FOG members aren't posting anymore -- and that the solution is to get them to rejoin. With all due respect to those guys, it's a big world. It might be more fruitful to focus on bringing new people into the fold than bringing old users back in.

 

[Alan m]

i think we need to find out why our older members are not contibution so that we can stop it getting worse. people come and go all the time but i have noticed alot of members over the years come in with great ideas and then stop posting again

 

[chrisrosenb]

i think we need to find out why our older members are not contibution so that we can stop it getting worse. people come and go all the time but i have noticed alot of members over the years come in with great ideas and then stop posting again

Did you not read Tyler's post? I read it as Festool wanting the older members gone.

 

[Wooden Skye]

i think we need to find out why our older members are not contibution so that we can stop it getting worse. people come and go all the time but i have noticed alot of members over the years come in with great ideas and then stop posting again

Did you not read Tyler's post? I read it as Festool wanting the older members gone.

I don't think Tyler was saying festool doesn't want the old members back, I think he was saying that it is hard for people that may have been slighted or felt attacked to change their minds and return, so it is easier to recruit new members.  I'm sure [member=57769]TylerC[/member] will correct me if I'm off base or needs further clarification.

 

[tjbnwi]

i think we need to find out why our older members are not contibution so that we can stop it getting worse. people come and go all the time but i have noticed alot of members over the years come in with great ideas and then stop posting again

Did you not read Tyler's post? I read it as Festool wanting the older members gone.

I do not read it this way-----I'm an old guy by the way.

Tom

 

[Alan m]

i dont read it like that

 

[TylerC]

If you interpreted my statement as "we don't want old FOG members to return," that certainly wasn't my intention.

I'm just saying that I hate the idea that the FOG can't be great unless a specific group of people return. Hopefully they will, but maybe the won't. I think that the FOG can be good regardless.

This thread has been a productive way to end the year. With that, I'm going to lock it tomorrow morning as we kick off a new year of the FOG.

 

[tjbnwi]

This thread has been a productive way to end the year. With that, I'm going to lock it tomorrow morning as we kick off a new year of the FOG.

With that---Happy New Year everyone.

Tom

 

[Alan m]

of course the fog can and hopefully will be great without older members.

but there must be an issue that is causing members to stop posting (its just the old timers that are obvious)

i know myself that things arnt as interesting as they used to be. im putting  hat down to lack of inovative ideas being posted. thats what i look out for when i check in

 

[Paul G]

i think we need to find out why our older members are not contibution so that we can stop it getting worse. people come and go all the time but i have noticed alot of members over the years come in with great ideas and then stop posting again

Did you not read Tyler's post? I read it as Festool wanting the older members gone.

I certainly didn't get that from his comments.

 

[Cheese]

A lot of people have said that one problem is that certain old FOG members aren't posting anymore -- and that the solution is to get them to rejoin. With all due respect to those guys, it's a big world. It might be more fruitful to focus on bringing new people into the fold than bringing old users back in.

Amen...times change...people change, just because you're a motor head does that mean you need to continue to be a motor head until the day you die?

Cars, metalworking, guns, motorcycles, runners, woodworkers, bicyclers, surfers, watches, golfers...well you get the idea, these are all just areas of interest that lucky for us, we can enjoy and experience and when we've tasted enough, sometimes we switch to sample a different interest. It doesn't mean we're not still interested in the hobby, it just means we've expanded our options and maybe we no longer feel the compunction to post on the FOG.

Embrace the fact and be thankful that these "old" posters took the time and effort to post their experiences, but also embrace change and that the baton needs to be handed to the next one in-line rather than the oldest one in-line.

A very happy & safe New Year to all... [big grin] [big grin]

 

[Paul G]

This thread begs the question of what role does FOG play in the ecosystem of Festool. Somewhere there is an executive and a bean counter evaluating the ROI on the spend here, what purpose it serves to the company and whether or not it's all worth it. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for those conversations.