NEW SYS³ sortainer & Combi

[HighlandMarine]

Does anybody know when we’re getting these stateside?

 

[Systainer.Store]

Soon.  I don't have exact dates to share, but I'm told we are close.  Next couple months are my hopes.  It may come in waves, again speculation, of Combis, Sort, Rack and MINI S.  There is a fair bit to get launched.

Last week I finally got details on the ToolBag and launched presales for that.  As soon as I get word I'll be sure to spread the news.

 

[Gallopavofurniture]

Does anyone have specs on the internal of the larger drawer on the Sortainer³ SYS3-SORT/2? Festool site is indicating that the 'upper' drawer is 158mm tall - I assume that this is a typo?
https://www.festool.com/accessory/storage-and-transportation/sortainers/sortainer³/577770---sys3-sort2-m-337#Usage

Seems like one may be able to squeeze 150mm abrasive paper standing up in there? Would be tight but pretty slick.

 

[Coen]

Seems upper and lower specs were switched in error.

 

[Josef]

Soon.  I don't have exact dates to share, but I'm told we are close.  Next couple months are my hopes.  It may come in waves, again speculation, of Combis, Sort, Rack and MINI S.  There is a fair bit to get launched.

Last week I finally got details on the ToolBag and launched presales for that.  As soon as I get word I'll be sure to spread the news.

They sure are taking their sweet time [emoji16]

 

[woodferret]

Gotta get the BBQ systainer out first afterall...  [embarassed]

 

[Josef]

Gotta get the BBQ systainer out first afterall...  [embarassed]

Of course [emoji1787]. I bet those steaks taste 20% better once you hit’em with that branding iron!

 

[WastedP]

...and they taste 10-15% better every April.

 

[Systainer.Store]

They sure are taking their sweet time [emoji16]

I know, I know.  I think they must be (re)learning how to launch a product.  SOOOO many are eager for this here in the USA.  I'd like to believe it is soon, but I've said that since last fall.  I'll be ready when Tanos and SSNA is ready.  Meanwhile, I keep improving my shop, improving my fitouts and improving Systainer Store.

 

[HighlandMarine]

Gotta get the BBQ systainer out first afterall...  [embarassed]

Between this and the camo screen back hat kit… Realtree camo is more akin to the DeWaukee tool crowd. We want sys3 sortainers, not a bunch of random swag and combo kits of tools we all already own.

Please and thank you.

 

[woodferret]

I actually get a bad vibe from Festool NA.  They seem to be going for the lifestyle brand rather than tools.  Maybe it's a certification issue, but trying to fill in the release gaps with junk is off putting.

edit: At least we got the SYS3 rails, unlike the other-side of the pond.

 

[JohnnyV]

Sort2….getting…so…impatient…

 

[Josef]

They’re hee-er
https://www.festoolusa.com/accessor...rtainers/sortainer³/577769---sys3-sort3-m-337

 

[deBox]

Hey all!

Long-time lurker but first time poster here. I'm actually over in Germany—home of the Systainers—however I don't use them for tools, but actually for lighting equipment and accessories in my photography studio.

I find them really handy thanks to their stackability, which means I can keep a couple of ~5ft stacks on the roll-boards and just wheel them around and out of the way as needed. Currently have a couple of such stacks, consisting mostly of T-LOC IV boxes, but bit by bit I'm adding assorted Systainers as the need arises.

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Anyway, the reason for me posting here: I recently picked up a pair of Systainer³ Sortainer/2 M 337 units, one in light grey, the other in anthracite, to have a little look at and play with since they were on special for a couple of weeks.

I thought I'd share a couple of things that might not have been noted yet.

Firstly, the drawers use a different retention system to prevent you yanking them completely out. On the previous T-LOC models they have a tab built into each side of the drawer that catches on the edge of the housing, and which you depress in order to remove it. I like this.

The SYS3 drawers, however, have two tabs protruding down from the 'ceiling' of the compartment that the drawer slides into, and catch on the rear edge of the drawer. To remove, you tilt the front of the drawer up maybe 10 degrees when it's extended, and it slides right out.

I actually don't like this new mechanism and prefer the side catches, but perhaps that didn't work as well with the taller style drawer or would have required two per side, compromising stability. But it does mean you need to be careful to keep the drawer level when you pull it out—to me it feels easy to pull up to far and release it completely.

Secondly, because of the modular way these are assembled, it's theoretically possible to disassemble several Sortainer units, then combine them into a Super-Sortainer that eliminates one base component and one top component that otherwise take up space when you simply stack two units, as well as reorder the drawers.

So with my two units, for example, I could set it up with the two taller drawers at the bottom and the two shorter ones above, and it would be a couple of inches (I think) shorter than two stacked together. The shorter height wouldn't be a big deal to me, but the particular gear I'm keeping in these needs two units that are kept together anyway, so may as well.

If I can figure out a way to disassemble these without breaking the tabs, I'll likely order another unit in anthracite and attempt at least one Super-Sortainer.

I assume this was/is also possible with the T-LOC Sortainers but obviously they only have the single drawer height, so you'd just be making a stack of six identical drawers instead of three.

One last thought...now that I have these SYS3 Sortainers incorporated at the bottom of my stacks, I'm reminded what a poor design decision I think it was to eliminate the side label recesses—it's such a handy feature on the T-LOC units since I often have these stored adjacent to a wall with an end, rather than front visible. Yeah yeah, I can just print a sticker instead, but then I've gotta peel it off and make another when I reconfigure anything.

 

[mino]

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I assume this was/is also possible with the T-LOC Sortainers but obviously they only have the single drawer height, so you'd just be making a stack of six identical drawers instead of three.
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It was, and there are threads on this.

What is not mentioned anywhere is that the 3 drawer modules from a T-Loc SORT/3 are 87.5*3 = 262,5 mm high. i.e. the same as a Combi 2, or 2.5 of the 105 mm height "units. That way a SORT/6 in the T-Loc variety is 5.5*105 mm high, i.e. exactly as high as a SYS V + a SYS II.

Basically, each drawer unit is exactly 5/6*105 = 87.5 mm high. This was clearly not accidental, TANOS just never productised it.

With SYS3 this height "system" is not there, but should be still useful for your use case. As long as you have a use case for a "SORT/1" for something, it does make sense.

 

[PaulMarcel]

Secondly, because of the modular way these are assembled, it's theoretically possible to disassemble several Sortainer units, then combine them into a Super-Sortainer that eliminates one base component and one top component that otherwise take up space when you simply stack two units, as well as reorder the drawers.

That would work really well for a stack of original classic Sortainers used for small parts and kits. I never separate them so losing the wasted space of inter-tier bottoms and tops would be interesting. This seems like something [member=1619]SRSemenza[/member] would latch onto.

As for the first point, I can see a benefit to both the side-latch and tilt release mechanisms. Personally, in the shop, I'd prefer the tilt since it would make removing a drawer to take to the bench a one-handed fast affair. The side-latches would be better for things you never take out and never want to risk dropping, like photography things or rhinestones that would go everywhere.

 

[semenza]

Yup, looking forward to the new additions.  [thumbs up]

Seth

 

[deBox]

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I assume this was/is also possible with the T-LOC Sortainers but obviously they only have the single drawer height, so you'd just be making a stack of six identical drawers instead of three.
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It was, and there are threads on this.

Had a hunt around and found them, thanks!

What is not mentioned anywhere is that the 3 drawer modules from a T-Loc SORT/3 are 87.5*3 = 262,5 mm high. i.e. the same as a Combi 2, or 2.5 of the 105 mm height "units. That way a SORT/6 in the T-Loc variety is 5.5*105 mm high, i.e. exactly as high as a SYS V + a SYS II.

Basically, each drawer unit is exactly 5/6*105 = 87.5 mm high. This was clearly not accidental, TANOS just never productised it.

With SYS3 this height "system" is not there, but should be still useful for your use case. As long as you have a use case for a "SORT/1" for something, it does make sense.

Ah, you mean like the one shown in the image here? Yeah that could actually be handy for me as well.

You're right, for these rollings stack I'm gradually putting together, SYS3's "broken" heights don't really matter to me, but I do still find SYS3's approach a bit frustrating for the same reasons others regularly complain about.

 

[deBox]

Secondly, because of the modular way these are assembled, it's theoretically possible to disassemble several Sortainer units, then combine them into a Super-Sortainer that eliminates one base component and one top component that otherwise take up space when you simply stack two units, as well as reorder the drawers.

That would work really well for a stack of original classic Sortainers used for small parts and kits. I never separate them so losing the wasted space of inter-tier bottoms and tops would be interesting. This seems like something [member=1619]SRSemenza[/member] would latch onto.

There's a nice example of that here.

As for the first point, I can see a benefit to both the side-latch and tilt release mechanisms. Personally, in the shop, I'd prefer the tilt since it would make removing a drawer to take to the bench a one-handed fast affair. The side-latches would be better for things you never take out and never want to risk dropping, like photography things or rhinestones that would go everywhere.

Yes the particular items I'd be storing in the deeper-sized drawer are either a pair of one small type of flash head or a trio of another type, and while the heads themselves are pretty robust, the flash tubes in them don't like rough treatment. So a drawer slid out too far and fumbled could potentially be costly. Though, these deep drawers would be bottom of the stack, so there wouldn't be far to fall.