NEW SYS³ sortainer & Combi

[Coen]

Yay, they use the org bins.... but boo.... they use the org bins

Well, at least they didn't invent yet another slightly differently sized bin.

 

[mcfal12]

Kobalt just announced a new case stack tool box with split drawers just like I want from Tanos and Festool. come on!

 

[slavi.yordanov]

They should also make some deep organizers as well, while at it.

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[mino]

They should also make some deep organizers as well, while at it.

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IMO it would be sufficient to sell an insert with a SYS-ORG arrangement. Then one would just pair it with a SYS 112 and it can work pretty well with the storage lid version. With 137 available, that would create a pretty good granularity for anyone needing this at a minimum complexity.

 

[slavi.yordanov]

They should also make some deep organizers as well, while at it.

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IMO it would be sufficient to sell an insert with a SYS-ORG arrangement. Then one would just pair it with a SYS 112 and it can work pretty well with the storage lid version. With 137 available, that would create a pretty good granularity for anyone needing this at a minimum complexity.

Bott actually has that. You can stack two levels of the storage bins inside a regular systainer. I’m talking about deeper bins/and oragnizer cases to be available.

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[woodferret]

Video of the new sys3 sort courtesy Finland.


Surprisingly, OF1010 gets a wide table accessory again? 

 

[jronman]

I saw the new Combi and wondered if anyone has tried an Attic lid swap on the Combi or is it even possible? Could make for a nice little drill setup.

 

[squall_line]

I saw the new Combi and wondered if anyone has tried an Attic lid swap on the Combi or is it even possible? Could make for a nice little drill setup.

The Combi should be possible; it appears to use a bog-standard Sys3 lid.

 

[semenza]

    Topic on Mini Sys Rack Unit

Seth

 

[luvmytoolz]

I never had a sortainer until I got the Zeta package that cam with the 3 drawer one, and I have to say I had no idea just how useful and handy they are!

I normally keep my sets of "insert hardware type" in loads of stackable trays, but being able to access the drawers from the front the sortainers are 1000% more convenient. And  unlike most metal drawer chests that have a lot of wasted space due to the frame, you don't really lose much space at all with the sortainers which is great.

 

[FestitaMakool]

Since my only sortainer is the now old T-Loc 3 drawer, I went “all in” and preordered two of each.
Really looking forward to deep drawer and drawer only below in a stack.

I like the fact that the drawers accept the new bins, moving some from my SYS ORG and moving in between will be nice. I made a couple of inserts in the new bins that hold a couple of bit sets.
The only bummer is that the new drawers seems to be slightly lower, but with reinforced bottoms.

The combi’s I agree being scarcely useful.

 

[six-point socket II]

Festool Systainer³ SYS3-COMBI M 337 - 577767 https://www.festool.com/accessory/storage-and-transportation/systainer³-combi/systainer³-combi/577767---sys3-combi-m-237

Festool Systainer³ SYS3-COMBI M 287 - 577766 https://www.festool.com/accessory/storage-and-transportation/systainer³-combi/systainer³-combi/577766---sys3-combi-m-187

Festool Sortainer³ SYS3-SORT/3 M 337 - 577769 https://www.festool.com/accessory/storage-and-transportation/sortainers/sortainer³/577769---sys3-sort3-m-337

Sortainer³ SYS3-SORT/2 M 337 - 577770 https://www.festool.com/accessory/storage-and-transportation/sortainers/sortainer³/577770---sys3-sort2-m-337

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Josef]

Anyone know if these will be available in North America?

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[Systainer.Store]

We are getting closer, I'm told, for the Tanos version.  Some items could be available late this month or next.

 

[Josef]

Great news thanks for the update!

 

[city17]

Just ordered the SYS3-SORT/3. I saw they are compatible with the new inlay boxes, but does anyone know how they fit there?

I have one of those new organizer systainers with those boxes and they have this grid system at the bottom and the lid that holds the boxes in place (works great), but I don't think the SYS3-SORT/3 drawers have them? So how do they keep the new inlay boxes in position? Couldn't see it on any of the photos.

Edit: Just saw in one image that they do have a sort of grid system, different than the organizers, but similar functionality:

 

[woodferret]

Yup that grid.... a bit loosey goosey - but it's the thought that counts

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[Coen]

That honestly looks like a giant waste of space and a huge rattling nuisance when transported.

 

[FestitaMakool]

I have just received the Sort/2 and Sort/3.

The bins fit, but they rely on the square pattern and are not as secure as in the SYS3-ORG.

Also, if you remove the dividers, you won’t be able to fill more bins - the pattern is organized so the dividers can stay in place. Still, I’ve found it useful. The bigger bins secures better than the smaller ones.

Also check out:Forg3d/ - They are making bins in double layers which i find useful. Looking forward to even more clever solutions and keeping it universal to tool and accessories organization.

[member=80953]forg3d.store[/member] - I like the idea of bit holder, but even more compact spacing would be nice. The idea of making bit sets that are customized to each needs is something many companies leave out (Apart from DeWalt who sell good empty bit boxes - Cudos to DeWalt for that!)
The double layer is also smart, but a compartment for bit holder on the top layer would be good.
- Also space for 50 - 100mm bits and drill bits with round and hex shank..  [wink]
Also needless to say: Space for the most standard tools that most if not all have, including folding ruler, measuring tape, pencils, drivers, driver handle (bit driver handles) and so forth.

 

[Forged3D]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member] Thanks for the feedback.... Soooooooo could your requests be addressed, maybe... But there are some design considerations we had to go thru on these to really make them work well and to be repeatably produced. 

First, the bin is actually printed in two pieces, upper and lower section.  With the upper section holding the bits AND having magnets embedded on the underside to allow for a secure hold without having to get a pair of pliers out to remove the bit.  The variability of size between bit to bit is MADDENING and we went thru about 17 different iterations before we settled on using magnets.

Next, because of these design considerations the print orientation is critical and the underlying geometry to hold the magnets make it a bit more challenging to just pack it denser.  Also the ergonomics of getting them out is impacted with adding more.  35 was the sweet spot for us to get our little nubbins in and grab the bits out.

Last, adding another pocket for a bit holder in the top impacts both the print orientation issue and the available real estate for bits. Unfortunately the surface finish of a recess to hold the bit holder would be less than optimal due to the print orientation issue mentioned above. 

Are these insurmountable problems? No... Did we iterate A LOT to get to this design, yes... Is it perfect? No, there are trade offs, but the key pain points we were trying to address were have a bit holder that would fit the entire SYS-ORG and SYS-GRD system we were creating off the Tanos / Festool M 89 system, make the bits EASY to remove but secure, and to allow a customer to use the system like they needed for their workflows.  When we got to this design we had checked the boxes and decided to ship it.

We will definitely take your feedback and ponder on it to see if we can improve our existing solution.  In the interim, we'd love to get a bit more information on the 'space for 50-100mm bits and drill bits' sentence on what you are looking for.  We do have more SYS-ORG products in the pipeline aimed at other bits and bobs, but have been working on our SYS-FIT system to try to flesh it out as well.

I have just received the Sort/2 and Sort/3.

The bins fit, but they rely on the square pattern and are not as secure as in the SYS3-ORG.

Also, if you remove the dividers, you won’t be able to fill more bins - the pattern is organized so the dividers can stay in place. Still, I’ve found it useful. The bigger bins secures better than the smaller ones.

Also check out:Forg3d/ - They are making bins in double layers which i find useful. Looking forward to even more clever solutions and keeping it universal to tool and accessories organization.

[member=80953]forg3d.store[/member] - I like the idea of bit holder, but even more compact spacing would be nice. The idea of making bit sets that are customized to each needs is something many companies leave out (Apart from DeWalt who sell good empty bit boxes - Cudos to DeWalt for that!)
The double layer is also smart, but a compartment for bit holder on the top layer would be good.
- Also space for 50 - 100mm bits and drill bits with round and hex shank..  [wink]
Also needless to say: Space for the most standard tools that most if not all have, including folding ruler, measuring tape, pencils, drivers, driver handle (bit driver handles) and so forth.