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RNEMTP

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Hello all, I have been lurking for a while and gaining lots of good information from the members here. I hadn’t joined until now because technically I wasn’t a Festool owner. Well, that changed today. I just ordered a new Domino 500Q set and the Systainer with the bits and Dominos. I was hoping you all could help with tips, tricks, advice on set up and use of this magnificent tool. I’ve wanted a domino since they came out but could never seem to fit it in the budget. Now, it appears as if I’ve been bitten by the Festool bug because I’m already planning my next purchase (RO 90). Any help or advice on either of these tools would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Bob
 
Welcome!

I'm new to the forum as well.  I bought the Domino 500 then my Ts 75.  There are good videos on YouTube regarding the use of your domino.  Those have helped me quite a lot.  Anyways, thenDomino 500 has reduced my time putting stuff together since I can get away with loose tenons for majority of what I do.
 
Welcome to FOG and you made a great decision on the 500Q.  It's a great tool.

1- The biggest challenge I had early on was plunge speed and how to hold the tool. I'd suggest you place the bulk of your weight on the front handle when plunging into an edge.  Clamping your piece to the table will help with stability.  Then lightly grip the back of the tool near the plug and slowly plunge in.  Front holds it steady and the rear is a light push.

2- One other thing to take note of - dominos and potential blow-out by forgetting to change the depth setting.  A 40mm domino, for example will join 3/4" material at right angles.  But you'll want to plunge into the horizontal piece at 15mm and the vertical piece at 25mm.  Just be aware of this when doing the work.  I've made the mistake of not resetting the depth and cut through the horizontal piece.

3- Your Domino should have come with an accessory base that is excellent for providing stability when you are plunging down into a piece.  Screw it on and you are far more likely to have a plunge that is square to the face of a piece.

4- On either side of the Domino, you'll notice a horizontal ledge that is 10mm up from the bottom.  That is the center point of the bit.  It will help when you want to do a row of Dominos across the face of a piece that are aligned to a line, as in a center upright on a cabinet.

5- I find that my Dominos need lightly sanding to make them easier to put in the slots.  You can also put them in a bowl in the microwave and that will also remove moisture from them making them easier to insert and remove

6- some users will drill a hole in a couple of dominos that are sanded for dry assembly.  The hole identifies them as dry assembly units but also lets you drop a screwdriver into them to easily pull them out if you find they are stuck from humidity expanding them

7- rule of thumb is the domino should be about 1/3 the size of the piece you are connecting in width.  So on 20mm ply a 6mm domino is sufficient.

8- many will do a tight joint on the first domino across a piece.  Then the others you can open up the slots for easier assembly.  I usually do tight dominos across one piece and then one tight one on the mating piece on the 'show' edge and the balance as loose ones to ease assembly.  You adjust mortise width with the rotating switch, BTW.  Do this WITH the Domino running so the gears mesh easily.

9- definitely download Rick Christopherson's Domino supplemental manual.  Lots of good info in it.  You can find it here - http://www.waterfront-woods.com/festool/

10- You will want to use dust collection.  The domino is one of those tools that will cut inaccurately if chips are not evacuated from the mortise as it's cut.

Enjoy your new tool!  Please share photos as your projects progress or feel free to ask questions.  Plenty of help here.

neil
 
Welcome to the forum, Bob, and congrats on the new Domino. It's my favorite tool.

Fortunately, it looks like someone made a copy of an old article I wrote with a list of a ton of Domino resources.
http://esnd73bnd.typepad.com/blog/2012/10/the-ultimate-festool-domino-guide.html

At the top of that list, all of the videos from Paul (Half Inch Shy) are among some of the best. Watch those and learn a ton.

Festool also has their own good "getting started" video.
 
Welcome aboard.

The best thing you can do for learning and getting comfortable with the Domino is to us it but beware. If you try to use it the first time on a real project you will be disappointed and frustrated.

Find some scrap face frame material and some scrap plywood that is the same type you would use on a cabinet build. Then take 4 or 5 dominoes' and sand them down so they easily fit in the domino slot and are easily removed. Mark these with the word test using  a sharpie on both side Now start making test joints and see how it goes.

When you are ready to start making joints mark the reference side on each piece. This is a key to making this whole system very easy, keeping aware of your reference surfaces. If you make a 90° butt joint and the edge is off about a 32nd of an inch I will bet you messed up your reference side.  A properly done 90° joint should pass the finger test and you should not feel the difference in the boards.

Practice until you get comfortable and do every joint you normally use in your work and in a very short time you will have it.

I love the Domino but it does not work by itself you have to learn to use it properly and that is not too hard. Also when you start go slow on the plunge until you have done enough that you can feel the right speed.
 
I find that the MFT is really useful for holding the work pieces while using a domino.

I have a CT, but if you don't you should figure out what hose combination will let you hook it up to a vac.  From what I've read, you'll jam the machine without dust extraction (I've never tried without, but since I have one no need to find out the hard way).
 
RNEMTP said:
... I just ordered a new Domino 500Q set and the Systainer with the bits and Dominos. I was hoping you all could help with tips, tricks, advice on set up and use of this magnificent tool...

There are lots of YouTube examples.
Just get some old 2x4s and square them up and get some practice in.
Then if you have some trouble you will have an example of what it is.

I did not have any trouble that I recall, but I was careful to reference from the same side and edge.
 
Wow! Thank you for the welcome and also all the great info and resources. I'll definitely be looking into all of these guides and videos. The practice part I plan on doing as soon as it arrives. Thank you all again for the great info. I can't wait to put it into practice.
 
Bob, welcome to FOG. Like you I'll be learning the ins and outs of the Domino, got one for Christmas. As was mentioned earlier you need dust extraction when using the tool. So you have to plan on something in that area. Best of luck.
 
Welcome! Make sure a CT vac is high on your list while sliding down the green slope!
 
Bob,
Welcome, and congrats on the new toy...err...tool!  Neil covered most of the bases, and Shane's suggestion to look at Paul's videos on you tube is a good one, but he neglected to warn you not to watch the other videos Paul made.  It will be detrimental to you wallet, however, Paul has an excellent way of presenting clearly and succinctly which I've found immensely helpful over the years!
 
Welcome to the FOG and I also highly recommend a Dust Extractor to use with all of your Festool machines but especially the Domino Joiner.  I have both of the Domino Joiners and wouldn't consider using them without the dust extractor since chip clogging can lead to dull cutters and oversized slots, etc.

Jack
 
ben_r_ said:
Welcome! Make sure a CT vac is high on your list while sliding down the green slope!
Will do, I have several shop vacs for now. I couldn't fit both the domino and the CT into the budget this time around but it's definitely in the list of must haves. Thanks for the reply.
 
RNEMTP said:
ben_r_ said:
Welcome! Make sure a CT vac is high on your list while sliding down the green slope!
Will do, I have several shop vacs for now. I couldn't fit both the domino and the CT into the budget this time around but it's definitely in the list of must haves. Thanks for the reply.

The CT is also important if you every buy the Kapex - with the apex I just get the larger hose since it's a stationary tool.  The Domino was my first Festool when it hit the North American market and the owner at Beaver Tools highly suggested that I get the Duct Extractor with it (mine is the old CT22 which is still running strong).

Have Fun and ask questions if you need help,

Jack
 
The CT is also important if you every buy the Kapex - with the apex I just get the larger hose since it's a stationary tool.  The Domino was my first Festool when it hit the North American market and the owner at Beaver Tools highly suggested that I get the Duct Extractor with it (mine is the old CT22 which is still running strong).

Have Fun and ask questions if you need help,

Jack
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The Kapex is a nice machine. I'm not currently in the market for a miter saw. I have a very nice one that meets my needs. The CT could certainly help with the dust extraction for both tools. It's currently hooked up to a shop vac with a mini cyclone separator. I plan on getting a CT when I get the RO 90 sander as I've heard that the ability to adjust the suction really helps. Not too familiar with that but I trust the opinions of the people here.
 
cpw said:
I find that the MFT is really useful for holding the work pieces while using a domino.

I have a CT, but if you don't you should figure out what hose combination will let you hook it up to a vac.  From what I've read, you'll jam the machine without dust extraction (I've never tried without, but since I have one no need to find out the hard way).
The MFT and TS55 are on the list. I have a Kreg KWS 1000 workstation that works pretty well when I use pocket holes. I'm gonna give that a go with the Domino and see how well it works. I for sure want an MFT because I'm not a fan of breaking down sheet goods on the table saw. Currently I use a circular saw and a shop made track/straight edge on sawhorses with 2" styrofoam underneath. It's not as convenient of a set up as the TS55 and MFT but it gets the job done until I can afford the rest of the "Green" tools on the list. 
 
RNEMTP said:
I just ordered a new Domino 500Q set and the Systainer with the bits and Dominos. I was hoping you all could help with tips, tricks, advice on set up and use of this magnificent tool.

Congratulations and welcome to the forum.

Tim
 
cpw said:
I find that the MFT is really useful for holding the work pieces while using a domino.

I have a CT, but if you don't you should figure out what hose combination will let you hook it up to a vac.  From what I've read, you'll jam the machine without dust extraction (I've never tried without, but since I have one no need to find out the hard way).

When I bought my Domino, I didn't have the CT and I was using a regular shop vac.  However, I bought the Rockler Universal Small Port Hose Kit and the small one worked great.  Granted it's not nearly as cool as the CT but it definitely cleared the dust in the port.  I high recommend this setup for those who don't want to buy a CT, but let's be real, why wouldn't you?
 
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