New Woodpeckers DF500 mortise depth sleeves?

All right you guys got me thinking. Ill call and cancel my order...

I wasn't real sure about it when i ordered it.

i hold your opinions pretty high.

No harm no foul I guess.
 
jobsworth said:
I got them for that odd sized piece we all get every now and then. Being a one time tool I figured get them now cuz I may need them in the future and not be able to get them
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There is pre-order pricing, but I don't believe these are one-time tools.
 
ive only had my domino a couple of months .and havnt done loads with it

the depth sleeves look cool .but i cant see me needing them

to be honest cant see me needing to buy any fancy anodised accessorys for my domino
 
Yes, these are definitely one time tools.  You buy them and you will use them exactly one time.  There are so many inexpensive and accurate ways to shim the machine and even more ways to trim a domino tenon that these just seem overkill to me.  I just hung my large precision squares in a protected area of my reworked shop this morning, so I'm not against Woodpeckers.  And I realize that they have to keep their machines running and their people working.  I just think that some of the stuff they offer are iffy at best and some of the ad copy for those products are a bit of a stretch. But I'm also glad that the tool collectors will keep them going until they get to their next super product.
btw, i prefer to trim my dominoes on my disc sander
 
Your missing out on this

http://www.senecawoodworking.com/products/domiplate-for-1-2-and-3-4-ply

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VW mick said:
ive only had my domino a couple of months .and havnt done loads with it

the depth sleeves look cool .but i cant see me needing them

to be honest cant see me needing to buy any fancy anodised accessorys for my domino
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Each to his own. I see many posts indicating the Domiplate is a great help. I ordered the SCG to provide me a more flexible guide to locate dominos without measuring and marking on widths that the trim stop does not permit. If you keep your faces oriented correctly, I don't find that there is a need to place a Domino exactly centered from top to bottom. In fact, the Paul Marcel videos indicate he finds not locating them in the center is a help when assembling to ensure correct orientation. I would agree with that and will wait on the Domiplate to see if the problem it resolves is a big one for me. Everyone has their needs, but, with all of these attachments, I will wait till I come across a problem that I feel will be repetitive before I buy and I certainly can use PVC pipe as a collar as Rick Christopherson suggests given the few times I am likely to need a depth difference. I do like the way the Woodpeckers stuff looks though. I do have some measuring and marking tools from Woodpeckers. I love them.
 
Seriously?  This is what Woodpecker comes up with?  Plunge spacers?

How about a Fastfix chuck for standard 1/4" hex ball detent bits?  Every Festool drill owner IN THE WORLD would take a real hard look at that.  Many would buy it.  Me for instance.

I don't know anything about manufacturing but if I did, boy howdy.
 
grbmds said:
If you keep your faces oriented correctly, I don't find that there is a need to place a Domino exactly centered from top to bottom.
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Agreed. The Domiplate and SCG are both nice looking high quality tools and I wouldn't hesitate buying them if I had a real need.

grbmds said:
Agreed. Woodpecker products are well made and I have several. I not crazy about the red. Black is sexier.
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fshanno said:
Seriously?  This is what Woodpecker comes up with?  Plunge spacers?

How about a Fastfix chuck for standard 1/4" hex ball detent bits?  Every Festool drill owner IN THE WORLD would take a real hard look at that.  Many would buy it.  Me for instance.

I don't know anything about manufacturing but if I did, boy howdy.
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  Did Snappy ever come out with one now that they've made some Centrotec Bit and Drivers kits?  [unsure]
 
Just a quick response regarding the Depth Sleeves we're making. They were requested by a couple of Festool Domino owners as a more consistent alternative to the PVC pipe solution. Of course there are many ways to get to the same end result, these sleeves are just another alternative.

One of the applications mentioned was plunging into the face of 1/2" plywood. At the 12mm setting, which actually results in a 13.5mm (12 + 1.5) mortise depth, the mortise would no longer be blind but all the way through. Based on the measurements I took, the actual plunge depth at all settings is approximately 1.5mm more than the setting which is necessary for flue, expansion, etc...

In the interest of full disclosure, this is Rich from Woodpeckers and this is a technical response, no intent to try and sell anything.

 
rmh said:
Just a quick response regarding the Depth Sleeves we're making. They were requested by a couple of Festool Domino owners as a more consistent alternative to the PVC pipe solution. Of course there are many ways to get to the same end result, these sleeves are just another alternative.

One of the applications mentioned was plunging into the face of 1/2" plywood. At the 12mm setting, which actually results in a 13.5mm (12 + 1.5) mortise depth, the mortise would no longer be blind but all the way through. Based on the measurements I took, the actual plunge depth at all settings is approximately 1.5mm more than the setting which is necessary for flue, expansion, etc...

In the interest of full disclosure, this is Rich from Woodpeckers and this is a technical response, no intent to try and sell anything.
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Thanks, great explanation. Much appreciated.
Tim
 
rmh said:
Just a quick response regarding the Depth Sleeves we're making. They were requested by a couple of Festool Domino owners as a more consistent alternative to the PVC pipe solution. Of course there are many ways to get to the same end result, these sleeves are just another alternative.

One of the applications mentioned was plunging into the face of 1/2" plywood. At the 12mm setting, which actually results in a 13.5mm (12 + 1.5) mortise depth, the mortise would no longer be blind but all the way through. Based on the measurements I took, the actual plunge depth at all settings is approximately 1.5mm more than the setting which is necessary for flue, expansion, etc...

In the interest of full disclosure, this is Rich from Woodpeckers and this is a technical response, no intent to try and sell anything.
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Hi Rich,

Thanks for your input. The reason I cancelled my order was well at first I wasnt 100% sure whether I would use them or not. Then I started thinking that I havent needed them so far. So I thought well I can save the money and buy another woodpeckers tool that I know Ill use. I ordered the one time bevel set and the 1281 metric version (my 2nd one). So I really do like your products. I also really like your customer service. You company is very good to deal with and very helpful. Im already looking at buying another one of your products.
Keep up te good work, you are doing a fine job and have a great company.
 
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