New Woodpeckers OTT -- Blade Gauge

Cheese said:
Also, the blade gauge aligns a blade relative to a reference surface, that's something a Wixey angle gauge can't do.

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]

LoL yeh!! I've often been curious whether people that use the Wixey check for 90o with a square as well before they get too carried away with it!
 
Kev said:
Cheese said:
Also, the blade gauge aligns a blade relative to a reference surface, that's something a Wixey angle gauge can't do.

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]

LoL yeh!! I've often been curious whether people that use the Wixey check for 90o with a square as well before they get too carried away with it!
Not true. You can measure table inclination, zero the gauge and measure the desired angle relative to the table.
 
Kev said:
Cheese said:
Also, the blade gauge aligns a blade relative to a reference surface, that's something a Wixey angle gauge can't do.

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]

LoL yeh!! I've often been curious whether people that use the Wixey check for 90o with a square as well before they get too carried away with it!

Don't you just measure the table angle first then depending on the gauge either zero the angle whilst on the table so all other angles are relative or if it's not that fancy, just do the maths manually to make sure you're at the desired angle you want to set? 
 
I use a Wixey to set angles for my Powermatic and my mitersaw and find it perfectly on.  As far as comparing the angle between the two, check the angle of the table and compare it to the blade.  If the table is not level just add 90 degree to the table setting, not much math involved.
 
I can't wait for my saddle squares to show up in a couple of weeks!  Those are a decent OTT.

The 26" and 18" precision squares are also something that they might consider making a regular product. 

The 26" square is perhaps the best money I've ever spent on a measuring and layout tool.  I use it every single time I break down a sheet to square the cross cut after trimming the factory edge.
 
[member=17468]Neil[/member] I think owning the Palin rule is a precondition to liking it!  I skipped that particular OTT offering.
 
Edward A Reno III said:
[member=17468]Neil[/member] I think owning the Palin rule is a precondition to liking it!  I skipped that particular OTT offering.

Sorry - I meant to direct this to [member=44099]Cheese[/member]
 
I have the "Precision" framing square and it's off about a 1/16th of an inch from 90 degrees at 24".
I'm very disappointed with some of woodpeckers quality.  I own the 52" hook rule, the 32" T square and the 36" ruler and none of them agree with each other.
Looks like their CNC machines need to be adjusted.

I do, however, use the Paolini pocket rule all the time and love it.

I wish Incra would make longer rules and larger squares - their stuff is dead on accurate.
 
[member=167]neilc[/member]
neilc said:
Sorry - I meant to direct this to [member=44099]Cheese[/member]

I normally use a Starrett 12" flexible scale that's probably .030-.040" thick. I wanted something that was easier to carry in my apron so I ordered the 1st version of the Paolini rule which was manufactured from 1/8" thick aluminum. With the blade being that thick and without a taper it was real difficult to take or make accurate measurements. I used it once and then sold it. 

However, I did order the 2nd version with the .062" stainless blade and it's 10 times better. I still like the Starrett best but the new Paolini is easier to carry and I use it a lot.
 
[member=29138]Steve-Rice[/member]
Steve-Rice said:
I have the "Precision" framing square and it's off about a 1/16th of an inch from 90 degrees at 24".

Send it back to them, I'm sure they'll take care of it. By their own admission, the max you should be out at 24" is .002".

I lifted this from their website:
"Our Guarantee. We’re so confident in the accuracy of our Precision Woodworking Squares we offer them with a Guarantee to be square to within .001 inch per foot or we’ll repair or replace it upon return and inspection by us."
http://www.woodpeck.com/psq2015.html
 
I also have the Paolini BUT the Woodpecker DelVe Square has been my favorite apron tool.  It's awesome ...  Probably my favorite Woodpecker tool with with respect to all of my Woodpecker tools. I hope it come back around in stainless steel model. 

I agree with the others on the blade gauge ... I'm skipping this one time tool.   
 
Yeah, that's the great thing about the woodpeckers squares, they really are a lifetime investment.

Cheese said:
[member=29138]Steve-Rice[/member]
Steve-Rice said:
I have the "Precision" framing square and it's off about a 1/16th of an inch from 90 degrees at 24".

Send it back to them, I'm sure they'll take care of it. By their own admission, the max you should be out at 24" is .002".

I lifted this from their website:
"Our Guarantee. We’re so confident in the accuracy of our Precision Woodworking Squares we offer them with a Guarantee to be square to within .001 inch per foot or we’ll repair or replace it upon return and inspection by us."
http://www.woodpeck.com/psq2015.html
 
Cheese said:
[member=167]neilc[/member]
neilc said:
Sorry - I meant to direct this to [member=44099]Cheese[/member]

I normally use a Starrett 12" flexible scale that's probably .030-.040" thick. I wanted something that was easier to carry in my apron so I ordered the 1st version of the Paolini rule which was manufactured from 1/8" thick aluminum. With the blade being that thick and without a taper it was real difficult to take or make accurate measurements. I used it once and then sold it. 

However, I did order the 2nd version with the .062" stainless blade and it's 10 times better. I still like the Starrett best but the new Paolini is easier to carry and I use it a lot.

Agree with you.  The stainless version is better because of the thinner blade.  I have both and use them a lot.  Great for setting offsets for door and window trim particularly!

 
The ‘thing’ about accessories like these is that they play on the sentiments and insecurities of non-educated woodworkers (by which I imply those that have no traditional education). These woodworkers think that having very precise instruments will preclude mistakes in their projects. That is not the case — experience is what makes the difference. Wood is a completely different substrate than metal! It is far more forgiving, more adept to troubleshooting, and far easier to shape than any man made material (except cheese, of course).

IMO Woodpeckers are metal guys projecting their feebies onto wood guys.

{That being said, I do like the T-square. But that’s because it is more of layout artist tool…)
 
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