OF 1010 play

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I have OF 1010 and out of the box it has some small slack or play between router and the vertical plunge rods.
The larger rod closer to handle feels solid, but the smaller rod that is next to the rotary knob has the play.
So basically if I look at router from the top and hold its table, I can slightly rotate it around the larger rod. If I tighten the knob, there is no play whatsoever and everything feels excellent.
But if the knob is not tightened the play is there and I feel that I don't have full control over the device.

Now my question is that is it normal or is it just my OF? Is there a way to tighten up the cylinder around the rods?
Thanks.
 
Welcome to the FOG.

No idea, but I would recommend you to call your local Festool dealer for advice.
 
Had a chance to get hands on another OF 1010, brand new in shop. The same slack :( So not only my tool.
Also had a chance to compare it with OF 1400 which has absolutely no play whatsoever on the rods.
Sadly I am few days over 30 days return period with the OF 1010, otherwise I would consider replacing it with OF 1400.

May be it is just a specific failed batch of OF1010 (?), but honestly, I didn't expect to find such quality issue with premium brand (and price).

 
I've not noticed any excessive play in MY 1010. Sounds like you've got a warranty issue.

I'm curious though - assuming you're using a guide rail or template or xyz AND making a plunge cut - how much deviation from the expected position are you getting at the bit? What I mean is - does the play translate to the cut or is it merely a tactile issue with no discernible practical effect on the work?

I do find the plunge can get a little stictiony on this model unless the rods are kept scrupulously clean and slightly lubed (ptfe) but I wouldn't expect it straight out of the box.
Good luck!
 
The video showing the play:

The router just returned from 2-week service stating that such play is acceptable by Festool standards and does not affect tool precision a bit. I must say I have a different opinion on the second claim as I can visually see the bit movement compared to the center hole of the shoe.

If you need a precision tool I recommend to go with OF 1400 that seems to be free of such issue. At least for now.
 
That is not OK! Have you tried a different dealer, or contacted Festool directly? I have a 1010 and there is nowhere near the same amount of play on mine, nor on any of the other maybe 5 or 6 1010 I have used.
 
Well, I showed the video to seller and Festool Baltics headquarters in Lithuania. The feedback was that this does not look normal, so my OF was sent to Kaunas, LT. After 2 weeks I received it back with note over email (quoting):
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Sorry for quite long process but the case was not standard. It took some time to get answer from German colleagues.
In one word your router was sent back to you today. And I informing you that there was and is all OK with tool. Guiding rod when locking handle is unscrewed have small free space and this is normal. Would be not normal if there be some free space when locking screw is locked. Anyway, this free space is absolutely not influencing working result.
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So the slack shown in the video is in within the Festool acceptance level.
I my opinion, the ring 436301 and bushing 210031 are just unneededly oversized. Is it intentional or batch accident -- I don't know. As I mentioned earlier, I tested another brand new OF1010 in the shop and it had the same slack.
 
I don't see how your 1010 could be used with the LR32.  With it wiggling like that how could you set it up with the centering mandrel?

It would just be a guessing game. 
 
The answer from Festool Lithuania seem to be based upon the presumption that it will only be used with the router in locked position, which is not my image of a plunge router, nor how I use it.
 
Mine will arrive tomorrow, so i will check and report back to you.  The play in yours does seem excessive.  [sad]
 
moody said:
The answer from Festool Lithuania seem to be based upon the presumption that it will only be used with the router in locked position, which is not my image of a plunge router, nor how I use it.
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That doesn't make sense.  Can they really be saying that?  The LR32 system is designed for the 1010 and the plunge is never locked when using the LR32.  The LR32 is listed as an accessory for the 1010.

How are you going to get a proper 5mm system hole with the router wobbling around as we see in that video?  If that hole is not right then shelf pins will not be snug.  I don't know, it might not hold system screws properly.
 
Sadly smth bad happened with my old caliper, so I can't measure holes currently, but I will when I will get new one.

What I learned meanwhile is that if I loose the knob only very little, like 10-15 deg, the router can be moved up and down without significant wobbling. The spring has harder times to push it back up though.
 
I'm astonished that any play at all is acceptable for a plunge router. I had assumed the bushing on the plunge rods would be as tight/smooth as the ones on the Domino's.
 
Ostap said:
I have OF 1010 and out of the box it has some small slack or play between router and the vertical plunge rods.
The larger rod closer to handle feels solid, but the smaller rod that is next to the rotary knob has the play.
So basically if I look at router from the top and hold its table, I can slightly rotate it around the larger rod. If I tighten the knob, there is no play whatsoever and everything feels excellent.
But if the knob is not tightened the play is there and I feel that I don't have full control over the device.

Now my question is that is it normal or is it just my OF? Is there a way to tighten up the cylinder around the rods?
Thanks.
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Hi Ostap
Hello from the U.K.
I have asked a colleague in Lithuania to contact you or you can PM me a email address and i will put you intouch with him.
rg
Phil
 
Mike B said:
I'm astonished that any play at all is acceptable for a plunge router. I had assumed the bushing on the plunge rods would be as tight/smooth as the ones on the Domino's.
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Totally agree.
 
I think it's great that Phil has stepped in, in order to help resolve things.

However, the fact that he needed to and the local Festool support service are either a) that incompetent in understanding acceptable tolerances or b) that unconcerned with supporting their customers properly, is utterly disgraceful.

What if the OP wasn't aware of this forum to kick up a stink? He would now be stuck with what would at best be a €400 door stop.
 
Hopefully with Phil's help this will get sorted.  [smile]

I have mine in front of me and there is very minor play with it unlocked. Locked there is no play what so ever.  [smile]
 
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