OF 2200 Router: Member Feedback

I just left woodcraft and saw the new 2200 router,  it is a monster!!!  very heavy duty especially at 17# but I am sure it has it purpose and needs to be filled.
 
I'm in the process of phasing out all of my older power tools to Festool. slowly!  got the saw just a week ago, makes panel cutting so much easier.  having seen how well the fence works makes me want to get the router sooner.

I am looking at this router now - my question is, has anyone used this in a router table configuration? I find that I use this often in my small shop and wondered if Festool makes a router table for their router?
 
wendym said:
I'm in the process of phasing out all of my older power tools to Festool. slowly!  got the saw just a week ago, makes panel cutting so much easier.  having seen how well the fence works makes me want to get the router sooner.

I am looking at this router now - my question is, has anyone used this in a router table configuration? I find that I use this often in my small shop and wondered if Festool makes a router table for their router?
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Welcome!

Festool DO make a router table that takes any of their routers. The old version was never available in NA, but they have just released a newer version of it that takes this new router too, and I suspect they're pushing hard to get it through UL approval so they can release it over there.
 
It appears to me that the difference between the old collets and the new is not in the collets but in the nuts. Tim, maybe you can pull an old and new collet out of their respective nuts and verify if they are the same or not? Both collets obviously have slots but the new nut appears to shield the slots from the cutting zone. In metal machining there are various collet style tool holder manufacturers who employ different techniques to accomplish similar goals. There are some proprietary collet designs but most collets are of a few standard designs and therefore interchangeable in different brand toolholders. The nuts,on the other hand, vary widely in appearance.
 
Hi,

          If the difference is in the nuts, will the new nut work with the old collets?  For the OF1400?  And can we get those  nuts as parts?  How much?

Seth
 
semenza said:
Hi,

          If the difference is in the nuts, will the new nut work with the old collets?   For the OF1400?   And can we get those  nuts as parts?  How much?

Seth
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That is why I asked Timmy to pull the collets and take a look. I am guessing here so, even though you are reading it on the Internet, please don't take it as gospel. This is what makes sense to me: Festool has identified an opportunity for improvement by redesigning the nuts so that they will better shield the collet from debris. The collet is probably the same (too expensive to change, unnecessary, and contrary to philosophy of backwards compatability when possible). The spindle is probably the same, including collet taper and nut threads. Ergo, new nut, old collet, voilia! All speculation on Greg's part.
 
In Henderson, I believe it was David McGibbon told us the new collet was for the solid surface dust, it seems it causes problems over time. Wood dust is rarely a issue, I wouldn't bother with the new nut as an upgrade.
 
I just got the 2200 eb (extra bulk) yesterday. I plowed through 16  1 3/4" lvl stringers ( 8 risers per) in a four hours. It didn't bog down once and hooked up to the ct 33, there was virtually no dust. Going to get another one tomorrow to finish the remaining 32 stringers for this custom stairway. Neither my Bosch or Makita 3 1/4 hp would have been able to do that, plus I would have been covered head to to toe in dust.
 
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You wait until I start singling about the OF 2200 in the CMS with infeed and outfeed extensions (sorry in advance NA).
 
Folks,

If I could make cope and stick raised panel doors (and I will)

with a hand held router. Meaning I could make one anywhere....

safely and efficiently. Y'all would poop your proverbial panties. No?

Per
 
Per Swenson said:
Folks,

If I could make cope and stick raised panel doors (and I will)

with a hand held router. Meaning I could make one anywhere....

safely and efficiently. Y'all would poop your proverbial panties. No?

Per
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Per,
Did you get the 2200 yet?

You will most likely need some kind of jig to hold the stiles and have more support for the router to be able to route cope and stick profiles in 2 1/4" wide stock. Dont you think? Doesnt seem to me that it would be very efficient.

Also since you most likely wont have a  jointer and planer in the field. Well maybe a planer. How would you propose getting flat enough stock to build those doors in the first place. I rarely have seen stock in any lumber yard flat enough. Even if, you would have to pick through alot of lumber to find it. Then you got to bring all those clamps, have enough table space set up on the job to clamp up these "site built doors". Seems pretty futile to me.

If you are on the same job for some months maybe. But if its for a small job I just dont see how it could be justified. Shop work is best done in the shop. IMO.

Eiji
 
Eiji,

I gotta disagree with your humble opinion.

But, that's why we are here.

First things first, Festool is a 100% portable with the underlying motto of

Bring the tool to the work.  I have a very small shop compared to most.

So everything including changing ones mind takes more time in our shop.

Jointer Eiji? You haven't figured out how to joint boards with the guide rail and a

ts 75 saw yet? See here
 
Planer, check. besides that, chalk and a smoothing plane(hand), fast work.

I am a not a glass half empty type of guy, nope, if I have a loaf of bread, I am

a cup runeth over fella. So futility is not a concept I understand or embrace.

I will tell you this, I played with the 2200 in Henderson Briefly and out of all

of the new offerings the huge router affected me the most.

I really started to think about the concept of a handheld shaper.

And yes up until the moment  I actually saw it work and touched it with my greedy little hands,

my initial tool bigoted opinion was, what the heck is that for, I own a shaper.

So, what it boils down to  Eiji, is can I do it and will it be profitable?

Rather then speculate on the outcome, I am just going to do it and let the wood chips fall where they may.

And, no I don't have it just yet.

Per
 
Addendum,

I would venture to guess that 80% or so of the readers here don't own a shaper,

50% don't own a router table, (now who is speculating) and a whole bunch are

confined to one 1/2 of the garage or worse their dining room.

In the spirit of the FOG community, how many of you think this information would be useful?

Per
 
Per Swenson said:
I will tell you this, I played with the 2200 in Henderson Briefly and out of all

of the new offerings the huge router affected me the most.
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Me too!!! When the price was released on the OF 2200 I thought why would I pay that kinda money on a router. Then I saw it, used it and now I want one!

Dan Clermont
 
Absolutely right Ckid,

But here is the difference,

The 2200 can spin a 3 3/8" bit.

Something, before I witnessed it personally,

I considered as safe as hunting with Dick Cheney. ;D

And yes Mr. Lucas and myself have been corresponding on this issue.

Per

 
Dave Rudy said:
Per Swenson said:
as safe as hunting with Dick Cheney. ;D

Per
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Per,

Hunting with Dick Cheney is only dangerous for lawyers.   ;D
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Maybe so, Dave, but we all know a lawyer can do more damage with a pencil than Per can with a router.  ;D
 
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