Okay, This Has To Be Said re: 100th Anniversary Tool Releases

[Ebuwan]

Yeah, the Lives with Sedge, I LOVED them when they started in the Pandemic; i had a lot of Festool tools already, and the earlier videos really really helped me learn then and find more uses for them.

It's been a WHILE since i've learned something from a Festool Live video.

As far as new stuff, not sure why they dont bang out some simple stuff that could utilize the batteries we already invested in?

Fan that runs on battery and can attach to Systainer? (love my Milwaukee one, great for camping!).
Battery Laser level (rebranded Stabila that uses Festool batteries?).
Systainer that you can have in a stack and hang your batteries on to charge? (Think the Milwaukee big batter pack charger)
Smaller hand held Sawzall
Bettery powered ratchets
As mentioned, a CT that can be corded OR battery (Milwaukee has this).

Also, I hate you all as now i'm going to be looking hard at a Zeta P2....

 

[luvmytoolz]

Also, I hate you all as now i'm going to be looking hard at a Zeta P2....

You won't regret it! ;-)

 

[onocoffee]

As far as new stuff, not sure why they dont bang out some simple stuff that could utilize the batteries we already invested in?

Fan that runs on battery and can attach to Systainer? (love my Milwaukee one, great for camping!).
Battery Laser level (rebranded Stabila that uses Festool batteries?).
Systainer that you can have in a stack and hang your batteries on to charge? (Think the Milwaukee big batter pack charger)
Smaller hand held Sawzall

Totally agree. Was just browsing Lowes this afternoon and looking at the line of Skil 12v cordless. A light for $20. A fan for $20. A compact reciprocating saw that I want for my firepit. And a compact jigsaw that made me wish Festool had a jigsaw that size.

The fall releases are a step in the right direction regarding cordless tools. Hopefully, they'll step up and speed up their game. And maybe bring out some 12v tools so I can use those batteries for more than just the CXS.

 

[Dr. P. Venkman]

I’m of two minds on the “Festool should offer a bunch more battery tools.” I believe it’s come up here before, and it’s certainly crossed my mind at times.

It would be convenient, but at the end of the day, I don’t think I’m all that interested in Festool straying from their core competency.

While a fan would be a handy thing to have at times, I don’t think they could come out with enough different tools to save people from the Milwaukee, or whatever, platform entirely.

I’m not saying I wouldn’t have purchased whatever tire inflator Festool rebranded, but most of that stuff would just be rebrands, and I’m not sure how much value there is in that.

I think what I really want is for Festool to make the handful of “extra” cordless tools that I want, and that’s not really feasible.

But I will say, if they made a rebranded Stabila laser level in a systainer, that would be awesome, and I 100% would have purchased that instead of the Bosch I have.

 

[luvmytoolz]

It took me some years to finally buy into the Festool battery platform, the SYS 50 was my gateway drug. I've since added to the tools that would provide most benefit to me being cordless, such as the drill/impact combo, collated screwgun, reciprocating saw (which I'm waiting on atm), with the CXS 18V set and several other tools planned. I still have most of my Makita gear, but I'm absolutely loving the much newer designs and technology from Festool!

Still waiting for a cordless TSC60K though, really hoping that's a reality one day!

 

[bwehman]

But I will say, if they made a rebranded Stabila laser level in a systainer, that would be awesome, and I 100% would have purchased that instead of the Bosch I have.

Why not just get the Stabila one? Just curious what about it not having a Festool badge led you to the Bosch.

 

[Dr. P. Venkman]

Why not just get the Stabila one? Just curious what about it not having a Festool badge led you to the Bosch.

Nothing to do with the badge. I narrowed it down to Bosch, Stabila, and Milwaukee.

Milwaukee - newer product, and I had less confidence in the laser, but I’m already on the batttery platform (though not heavily).

Bosch - great laser. I’m not on the battery platform, but it’s a terrific platform, and the laser can also run on AA batteries.

Stabila - great laser. CAS platform, which I don’t have, but in the US, that basically means Metabo.

All three were similarly priced. I opted for the Bosch because I had more confidence in the laser than the Milwaukee.

Same for the Stabila, but basically, I chose Bosch over Metabo for any potential future 12v purchases. In the couple of years since I got the laser, I have not purchased any Bosch 12v tools, so it turns out not to have really mattered (yet), but I’m happy with where I ended up.

If Festool had offered a rebranded Stabila on their own battery platform, I almost certainly would have gone with that (great laser, already have the batteries).

 

[Ebuwan]

Why not just get the Stabila one? Just curious what about it not having a Festool badge led you to the Bosch.

To stay on one battery platform i guess

@Dr. P. Venkman makes totally good points actually and is right. What would have been great is like they did in Europe, and standardize on a battery connection type ( i think will be regulated starting next year?). I'm not a huge fan of Govt regulation, but that is actually a really useful one all around compared to other things they waste their time on.

Now that i'm about to list it out, i'm a lot vested into Milwaukee batteries LOL. Got a mess of M12's in all sizes, and M18's. Even have two M18 Forge 12.0 batteries, and OMG those last forever. A good chunk of this stuff was from a referb shop and barely used, if not brand new. All these combined probably didn't even cost me as much as the Kapex 120....

Imagine how much a Festool pro-press would cost

M12:
Laser Level (i've found no issues with it)
Pro press/Force logic (Paid for itself on two projects on the house instead of paying a plumber)
Stapler
Multiple sizes Ratchets
portable bandsaw
PVC cutter
Small chain saw (Great for fallen branches to throw in the fireplace)
Inflater (wondering why i waited so long)
Installer drill (would have got the festool, but i got such a bargain on it, and i love it)

M18
Fan (Awesome for camping) - Forge 12.0 battery lasted a entire week and still had a ton of charge left)
Lights (that also have a USB port for your phone, Awesome for camping)
Small Vac (the Forge 12.0 fits in it too; take some pointers festool!)
Smaller sawzall
Chain Saw
Hand held blower


I'd love to get into their battery nailers; I've just got like every single nail gun from Hitachi/Metabo, and modded a systainer for the air compressor. It would be a LOT of money to switch, and the plus side the Metabo air nailers will all outlast me without a doubt.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Also, I hate you all as now i'm going to be looking hard at a Zeta P2....

You're welcome

 

[Dr. P. Venkman]

M12:
Laser Level (i've found no issues with it)

I'm sure it's great - it's likely a me problem and not a Milwaukee problem, but I just couldn't get past thinking Bosch and Stabila were superior companies for lasers.

Even at the time I was purchasing, the reviews of the Milwaukee were fantastic. One thing I think I recall is that the Milwaukee was huge and heavy, and that may have factored into my decision (but now we're into the territory of testing my memory, which is dangerous). This was for the 360 degree laser that was (I think) new to Milwaukee at the time.

Inflater (wondering why i waited so long)

It is, to my constant amazement, one of the most useful things I own. Car tires, bike tires, basketballs, footballs...I remain stunned how long the list is.
I will say that 4 (or especially 8) car tires that are lower than they should be is quite a workout for the M12 inflator. I wish the M18 version had existed when I got mine.

 

[Cheese]

It is, to my constant amazement, one of the most useful things I own. Car tires, bike tires, basketballs, footballs...I remain stunned how long the list is.
I will say that 4 (or especially 8) car tires that are lower than they should be is quite a workout for the M12 inflator.

Don’t forget wheelbarrow tires, wagon tires & motorcycle tires.

 

[Dr. P. Venkman]

Don’t forget wheelbarrow tires, wagon tires & motorcycle tires.

Those, too. So many tires…

 

[luvmytoolz]

Those, too. So many tires…

And for me additionally, hand trolley tires! Forever pumping them up!

I've also always had my kids keep a small 12v air pump in their cars, as I've found on enough occasions that it's just so handy in event of emergency.

 

[larmstrong]

I will NEVER forgive Festool for announcing a new and improved DF 500 right after I'd bought the Anniversary model.

I gladly took the discounted price over the few upgrades on the new model. To each their own.
All I'm saying is don't forget the the anniversary models are about 10% discounted, a Festool rarity.

 

[larmstrong]

Sedge needs to take his meds and stop yelling into the microphone, festool live is unwatchable in its current form. Either have him talk about the products and stop with the three stooges Mo impersonation or get a new host of Festool Live. As for Festool 100 anniversary, look for the RO150 to be updated after its promotion is over. Why would they do anything different than they did with the domino 500. Close out the old inventory on a promo and then introduce a new product.

Agree with you on the RO150.
But Sedge be Sedging. Gotta love an eternally upbeat voice (no matter how loud it gets) in today's world.

 

[demographic]

Stabila levels, good? You lot having a laugh?
Not so much the 1800 yelow box levels.

I like the 600mm girder levels but the 1800 ones are pretty gash and you just have to look at them the wrong way and they're knackered.

I am very careful with my long levels but have still gone through a few of them during my career.

I honestly prefer the Stanley Fatmax 1800 levels, stronger and last better.
Were Stabila to make an 1800 girder level I'd be tempted but til that time there's more chance of me buying a cordless Paslode nailgun (ha, no chance) than getting another Stabila box level.

 

[luvmytoolz]

I honestly prefer the Stanley Fatmax 1800 levels, stronger and last better.

The Fatmax are my favourite for ruggedness, but I had to go through 3 or so at the shop when I bought them to get dead straight ones.

 

[onocoffee]

All I'm saying is don't forget the the anniversary models are about 10% discounted, a Festool rarity.

This is true. I don't recall Sedge mentioning price during Festool Live and the 100th TS 60 and TSC 55 were priced in-line with the current MSRP, so I didn't notice the price difference until the other day.

So, pretty cool $189 earbuds for "free" at MSRP or sandpaper and a ten percent discount...