One for the Aussies...
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Has anyone heard anything about the C18 becoming available in Aus?
The new ETS 150, did eventually turn up. but I didn't order the $850 model. I ordered the old tried and tested model. Going to try and register it today.
As for the C18, we are usually about three months behind Europe on new releases, so it should be soon I would have thought.
As for the C18, we are usually about three months behind Europe on new releases, so it should be soon I would have thought.
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[size=14pt]DB10 said:
Didn't ' JT' register it for you? They always have for me. Last time was in mid Feb, and Registration Confirmation Email arrived two weeks later.
Enjoy the sander, it is The Festool that got me hooked.
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[member=19746]Untidy Shop[/member] [member=40271]benwheeler[/member] That's a good point, I'll check with them before hand.
I've just spoken with Festool Aus regarding how many batteries come with the new CXS as their web site is not clear and they don't know they will go out to the warehouse and check the stock for me.
I hope it does as its $385 for the set. And C&L tool centre up in Queensland are selling it for $ 399, and they state on their website that it has two batteries, I don't want to be paying $15 less but only get one battery.
On a side note I asked Festool Aus about the C18 release date and they are being sent out to the dealers today and apparently it is now up on the Festool Aus web site.
I've just spoken with Festool Aus regarding how many batteries come with the new CXS as their web site is not clear and they don't know they will go out to the warehouse and check the stock for me.
I hope it does as its $385 for the set. And C&L tool centre up in Queensland are selling it for $ 399, and they state on their website that it has two batteries, I don't want to be paying $15 less but only get one battery.
On a side note I asked Festool Aus about the C18 release date and they are being sent out to the dealers today and apparently it is now up on the Festool Aus web site.
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Can't see it there yet - maybe soon. My wallet is shuddering as we speak!
I can't see it there either, but they assured me it's out there.
My wallet has now gone into hiding.
Good news is that Festool Aus have just confirmed that the CXS definitely comes with two batteries and they will update their website to state this accordingly.
My wallet has now gone into hiding.
Good news is that Festool Aus have just confirmed that the CXS definitely comes with two batteries and they will update their website to state this accordingly.
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[size=14pt]DB10 said:
The C18 will probably appear on their website overnight. I note they are still calling the TXS a CXS in the text. Apart from my recent comment in this thread, I also emailed them last week.
With the C18, my wallet is quite relaxed as in Feb, I purchased a C15 made in Jan this year; and at a discounted price! [smile]
Remember when we had discounting! [eek]
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[member=19746]Untidy Shop[/member] Yep, JT had registered it for me, there a good bunch of lads over there. Thanks for the heads up on that.
You got me started on Discounting now.
My local Festool Dealer is day dreaming when he said to me that price fixing will be good for their business, as all dealers will now have to play on a level playing field.
My local dealer has now become quite obsolete to me, there is no point for me to drive 45 mins burning up fuel to put an order in with a sales person who knows very little about festool, as the so called expert on hand is never there.
Only to find that most of what I need they won't hold in stock and will have to order in, resulting in a return trip usually a week later when the stock arrives.
When I can order on line with Festool Aus at the same prices, my orders usually come post free and arrive in one go a few days later.
There is only one business who will thrive with this arrangement and I wonder who that will be.
You got me started on Discounting now.
My local Festool Dealer is day dreaming when he said to me that price fixing will be good for their business, as all dealers will now have to play on a level playing field.
My local dealer has now become quite obsolete to me, there is no point for me to drive 45 mins burning up fuel to put an order in with a sales person who knows very little about festool, as the so called expert on hand is never there.
Only to find that most of what I need they won't hold in stock and will have to order in, resulting in a return trip usually a week later when the stock arrives.
When I can order on line with Festool Aus at the same prices, my orders usually come post free and arrive in one go a few days later.
There is only one business who will thrive with this arrangement and I wonder who that will be.
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Couldn't agree more, what was the ACCC thinking when they thought this move would increase competition!!?
I will continue to support JT however, as their staff offer excellent service and knowledge and both shop and Internet services. And they sell more than just Festool. It is customer service such as theirs that will keep some stores selling Festool due to demand from their own 'fan' base.
Whether some other stores drop Festool as their service is not up to scratch and sales drop, or reduce their display space and range, in the face of Festool HQ Internet sales, remains to be seen.
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[size=14pt]DB10 said:
Couldn't agree more, what was the ACCC thinking when they thought this move would increase competition!!?
I will continue to support JT however, as their staff offer excellent service and knowledge and both shop and Internet services. And they sell more than just Festool. It is customer service such as theirs that will keep some stores selling Festool due to demand from their own 'fan' base.
Whether some other stores drop Festool as their service is not up to scratch and sales drop, or reduce their display space and range, in the face of Festool HQ Internet sales, remains to be seen.
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The last Festool I bought was an HL850, about six months ago from my local, with a nice discount. I honestly can't see when my next Festool purchase will be, with the already high prices, and no chance of getting a better than retail price.
Thing is, I'd like to keep my 1400 router in a table, and buy a 1010 for hand/guide rail use. I could have got the price down enough, that buying a Makita (for example) would cease to be an attractive option. I would pay the bit extra and not even think about it. Now, buying another brand and leaving that in the table, freeing up my 1400, seems like a much better idea.
I recently upgraded my TS55, and in the past would have checked out the 75 - but it make more sense to import a different saw direct from Germany.
Looks like the change has had an effect on me.
Thing is, I'd like to keep my 1400 router in a table, and buy a 1010 for hand/guide rail use. I could have got the price down enough, that buying a Makita (for example) would cease to be an attractive option. I would pay the bit extra and not even think about it. Now, buying another brand and leaving that in the table, freeing up my 1400, seems like a much better idea.
I recently upgraded my TS55, and in the past would have checked out the 75 - but it make more sense to import a different saw direct from Germany.
Looks like the change has had an effect on me.
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I too haven't bought a new Festool in the last six months. At my last visit (6 months ago)Linbro said:
to my preferred Premium Festool dealer I was told about about the ACCC decision to allow Festool price fixing in Australia. This is a total turn off to me.
Over the last few years I have bought at least twenty Festool tools. I expect future purchases will be a mix of different brands.
[thumbs up] [thumbs up] for JT. Just wish I lived within driving distance to them.
You are right about this price fixing being a turn off, whether you are trade or not if you are spending big bucks with one supplier, and we are talking about enough money here to buy a car, you expect a bit of discount, it's the way it's always been and it makes you feel valued. And that's what's missing here now, as a customer you don't feel valued anymore.
Dealers can't help as their hands have now been tied, so it is only natural to start looking at other brands for new purchases, and if you look at the three big M's Makita Milwaukee and Metabo, you can still get some good discounts there.
Strange that Festool have chosen this route to price fix here, as there hasn't been any explanation to the customer from what I've seen, only what I've been told from the dealers. They wouldn't get away with this in Europe so why try it over here.
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You are right about this price fixing being a turn off, whether you are trade or not if you are spending big bucks with one supplier, and we are talking about enough money here to buy a car, you expect a bit of discount, it's the way it's always been and it makes you feel valued. And that's what's missing here now, as a customer you don't feel valued anymore.
Dealers can't help as their hands have now been tied, so it is only natural to start looking at other brands for new purchases, and if you look at the three big M's Makita Milwaukee and Metabo, you can still get some good discounts there.
Strange that Festool have chosen this route to price fix here, as there hasn't been any explanation to the customer from what I've seen, only what I've been told from the dealers. They wouldn't get away with this in Europe so why try it over here.
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We went through the same thing in the USA. Originally, there was the Sherman Anti-Trust Act that prohibited price fixing. Unfortunately, the Act was modified later which opened the gates for companies like Festool to set SELLING prices, not just Minimum Advertised Prices as was the case previously.
From the last post: "...and we are talking about enough money here to buy a car..."
Ummm, actually about THREE cars! [eek]
I can't justify paying US$175 for a Syslite, though I'd love to have one. It would be nice if Festool "rewarded" me for my intense loyalty and purchases by sending me one as swag! Festool, are you listening? The hat was nice, but c'mon! Just saying.... [tongue]
Cheers,
Frank
From the last post: "...and we are talking about enough money here to buy a car..."
Ummm, actually about THREE cars! [eek]
I can't justify paying US$175 for a Syslite, though I'd love to have one. It would be nice if Festool "rewarded" me for my intense loyalty and purchases by sending me one as swag! Festool, are you listening? The hat was nice, but c'mon! Just saying.... [tongue]
Cheers,
Frank
DB10 said:
Just about to order a CMS-OF and non of my usual dealers carry it in stock, but will get it in and send it to me in a few days at retail+freight.
And as you say I can order online with Festool Aust at the same price, post free and get it quicker.
This is what the Aust Government considers to be competition - probably why in Aust two supermarket chains have 80% of the business.
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I just emailed 'The Checkout' ABC program re ACCC decision. They probably will not pick it up, but I feel better now! [smile] [eek]
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For information of non-Aussies 'The Checkout' is a satirical consumer rights program.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/thecheckout/
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I just emailed 'The Checkout' ABC program re ACCC decision. They probably will not pick it up, but I feel better now! [smile] [eek]
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For information of non-Aussies 'The Checkout' is a satirical consumer rights program.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/thecheckout/
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JT have just revised their website (and their prices since April 1). For Festools look at -
http://justtools.com.au/festool-shop
You should note they are now offering free Australia wide delivery for most items.
And to see images of their shop front Festool display see -
http://justtools.com.au/festool-shop-(2)
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I have no direct connection with JT other than being a very satisfied customer.
JT have just revised their website (and their prices since April 1). For Festools look at -
http://justtools.com.au/festool-shop
You should note they are now offering free Australia wide delivery for most items.
And to see images of their shop front Festool display see -
http://justtools.com.au/festool-shop-(2)
[size=10pt]Please note:
I have no direct connection with JT other than being a very satisfied customer.
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