One for the Aussies...
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[size=13pt]Re RO150 [member=59890]Grakat[/member] , you are right re new price. I had quoted the cardboard box delivery, rather than the model with Systainer.
In December 2014, a dealer discounted RO150 with Systainer was A$890. Now it is $1049. That's a A$159 increase in two years!
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In December 2014, a dealer discounted RO150 with Systainer was A$890. Now it is $1049. That's a A$159 increase in two years!
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Untidy Shop said:
[member=19746]Untidy Shop[/member] You are right, as a matter of interest I was checking the prices on some of my Metabo 2015 tool purchases and comparing them to the current 2017 prices. In 2015 I paid $489 for my KGS 216 LTX cordless mitre saw (skin) today the same saw can be bought for $299. That's a massive drop in price. The same story with some of my Milwaukee purchases which have also seen prices go down.
Festool in Australia are doing a great job of pricing themselves out of the market.
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[size=13pt]Well with the Down Under price rises on Jan 1; today, Jan 3, there were some new tools released.
KS 60
RTS400
DTS400 and ETS 125 new models
ETS-EC 125/3
And this time some, such as the KS60, before NA. [big grin]
Details -http://www.festool.com.au
KS 60
RTS400
DTS400 and ETS 125 new models
ETS-EC 125/3
And this time some, such as the KS60, before NA. [big grin]
Details -http://www.festool.com.au
Untidy Shop said:
I'm pretty interested in the KS 60, bit ill wait for some reviews.
I'd use it purely as my saw for fixes, I've currently got the Bosch X glide 12", but it is huge to be lugging around for everything.
KS 60 appeals to me given it's likely precision and dust extraction for stuff like MDF.
It's price point isn't to bad either. Even the decent smaller drop saws from Makita etc are around $700, most good SCMS are around $1000.
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The "set" version goes $1,350 and add $899 for the stand and you're looking at $2,249 ... the price for the blades is massively OTT.
Amusing that they've smashed the price on the Vecturo ... I'm guessing they haven't been flying out the door!
Hi there
I also agree about the KS60. I think it would be very useful, but I would like to let it get established for a bit first, particularly since every second person seems to have motor issues with the larger Kapex saws.
It would definitely be more compact than my Makita LS1013, which weighs a ton esp with the stand base fitted to it.
I also agree about the KS60. I think it would be very useful, but I would like to let it get established for a bit first, particularly since every second person seems to have motor issues with the larger Kapex saws.
It would definitely be more compact than my Makita LS1013, which weighs a ton esp with the stand base fitted to it.
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[size=13pt]Well we have had the price rise, now comes the promotion. We had no promotion catalogue in the last 1/4 of 2016, but the Jan - March, 2017 has been released.
The Catalogue celebrates the release of the KS60 with a promotion price on saw/stand combination. And there are considerable sander 'discounts' particularly on the ETS150/3/5s with discounts of A$139 which nearly brings them back to the price I paid over ten years ago! [eek]
The three main router models are also discounted, in this case by A$100 each., and yes [member=13058]Kev[/member] with discounts over A$300 on the Vecturo range, there is room for sales speculation. Fein anyone ; or even a Blue Boch, DeWalt or AEG!
But it is great to to see some real discounting at last;
no matter what the reason. [thumbs up] [thumbs up]
http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/S...s/Festool_Jan-Mar_17_Campaign_Spreads_low.pdf
The Catalogue celebrates the release of the KS60 with a promotion price on saw/stand combination. And there are considerable sander 'discounts' particularly on the ETS150/3/5s with discounts of A$139 which nearly brings them back to the price I paid over ten years ago! [eek]
The three main router models are also discounted, in this case by A$100 each., and yes [member=13058]Kev[/member] with discounts over A$300 on the Vecturo range, there is room for sales speculation. Fein anyone ; or even a Blue Boch, DeWalt or AEG!
But it is great to to see some real discounting at last;
no matter what the reason. [thumbs up] [thumbs up]
http://www.festool.com.au/WebRoot/S...s/Festool_Jan-Mar_17_Campaign_Spreads_low.pdf
Yes it's an interesting promotion. The Routers and the ETS sanders are the stand outs for this one. I have the ETS150/3 sander, would consider the 5mm but was going to cover that off with the Rotex.
I have a cheap Ryobi multi tool, which can't cut custard. Is the Festool Vecturo any better? Can anyone shed any insight?
All going well, will pick up the OF1400 this time around. Decisions decisions :-\
I have a cheap Ryobi multi tool, which can't cut custard. Is the Festool Vecturo any better? Can anyone shed any insight?
All going well, will pick up the OF1400 this time around. Decisions decisions :-\
What i found interesting between the ks60 and ks120
Was is the weight.
Ks120 weight about 21kg and the trolley is about 10kg
Ks60 weight about 17.8 and the trolley with adapter is about 13kg
So the foot print of the new saw is only smaller if you dont put it on the stand
And they weight basically the same.
Mmmmm....
Cheers
Bryan
Was is the weight.
Ks120 weight about 21kg and the trolley is about 10kg
Ks60 weight about 17.8 and the trolley with adapter is about 13kg
So the foot print of the new saw is only smaller if you dont put it on the stand
And they weight basically the same.
Mmmmm....
Cheers
Bryan
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Grakat said:
I've got a Vecturo and Fein (plus a Dremel, but the less said about that the better). I literally fell into a cordless Dewalt multi and the stupid yellow thing has become my "go to" multi. I won it on Ebay when hunting for 2x 2AH batteries and it was huge surprise to me how good it was ... it doesn't have the "Euro finish", but the ergonomics are good and is smooth and quite gutsy.
Hi All,
I saw an ad in Gumtree, and followed up a little...
Looks like Vijays Power Tools (897 Botany Rd, Rosebery NSW) is clearing out Festool. The Gumtree ad says they will not entertain queries over the phone, but I gave them a call anyway and he was happy to tell me if he had a specific item in store. He wouldn't disclose any prices over the phone but said it was better than RRP.
They aren't open on weekends, and close at 4:30pm so it pretty much rules out any chance I have of getting down to have a look.
If you're in the area you might want to check it out. If you're going to check it out and willing to do me a favour, then could you get me the prices on the right angle attachment for the PDC Drill (Product Number 769097)? And maybe any quick clamps?
Thanks
I saw an ad in Gumtree, and followed up a little...
Looks like Vijays Power Tools (897 Botany Rd, Rosebery NSW) is clearing out Festool. The Gumtree ad says they will not entertain queries over the phone, but I gave them a call anyway and he was happy to tell me if he had a specific item in store. He wouldn't disclose any prices over the phone but said it was better than RRP.
They aren't open on weekends, and close at 4:30pm so it pretty much rules out any chance I have of getting down to have a look.
If you're in the area you might want to check it out. If you're going to check it out and willing to do me a favour, then could you get me the prices on the right angle attachment for the PDC Drill (Product Number 769097)? And maybe any quick clamps?
Thanks
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'Tooltechnic is also likely to face pressure from its dealers if it sets the minimum resale price too high, because dealers will not be able to sell the product at that price. Although dealers will be guaranteed a margin on the product, it is unlikely to be attractive if the dealers are unable to sell the product. Market inquiries indicate that dealers stock a wide range of brands, of which Tooltechnic is one of the smaller suppliers whose brands are less commonly stocked, indicating that dealers have bargaining power to determine whether to stock Festool products. Market inquiries also suggest that dealers often prefer stocking mass market power tool brands such as Makita to stocking higher-priced, low volume brands. [size=12pt]Should Tooltechnic raise the prices of Festool products to an extent which causes significant customer switching, dealers are likely to become more reluctant to stock Festool products.'
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Australian Competition and Consumer Commission
Paragraph 92, Page 15, Determination Application for authorisation A91433 lodged by Tooltechnic Systems (Aust) Pty Ltd in respect of resale price maintenance
Date: 5 December 2014 Authorisation number: A91433
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Read the paragraph above and like me then wonder what might be behind this dealers decision to stop selling Festool. Could it be the January 1 price rises?! [eek]
[size=11pt]eddomak said:
'Tooltechnic is also likely to face pressure from its dealers if it sets the minimum resale price too high, because dealers will not be able to sell the product at that price. Although dealers will be guaranteed a margin on the product, it is unlikely to be attractive if the dealers are unable to sell the product. Market inquiries indicate that dealers stock a wide range of brands, of which Tooltechnic is one of the smaller suppliers whose brands are less commonly stocked, indicating that dealers have bargaining power to determine whether to stock Festool products. Market inquiries also suggest that dealers often prefer stocking mass market power tool brands such as Makita to stocking higher-priced, low volume brands. [size=12pt]Should Tooltechnic raise the prices of Festool products to an extent which causes significant customer switching, dealers are likely to become more reluctant to stock Festool products.'
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Australian Competition and Consumer Commission
Paragraph 92, Page 15, Determination Application for authorisation A91433 lodged by Tooltechnic Systems (Aust) Pty Ltd in respect of resale price maintenance
Date: 5 December 2014 Authorisation number: A91433
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Read the paragraph above and like me then wonder what might be behind this dealers decision to stop selling Festool. Could it be the January 1 price rises?! [eek]
Untidy Shop said:
$300 Is a massive drop in price on the over priced Vecturo, but I can't help thinking that this new price will just encourage people who purchased one before Christmas to return it under the 30 day rule and re purchase it again at the new price. At least at the current price the Vecturo is now more competitive with Fein.
I have to agree with the comments above. If TTTS price themselves too high their dealer base will walk away, which I am surprised is not happening already since they compete with their own dealers online anyway. I must admit my local Festool dealer seem to be a bit light on for tools on the shelf, even though they are a premium dealer, and are supposed to be stocking everything.
Hope you all are having a great Australia Day.
Hope you all are having a great Australia Day.
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